Seen alot of fat slob obese porker meat eaters. Maybe there would be less of them around. Poop in the water supply? Where do you think all that poop on the ranch ends up? And people bitch about dog poop. Sheesh

Three words - liquid amino acids. They feed them to chickens at the factory farms. Seems to work.

"We have A 2 month growing season if we are lucky around here people. A vegan diet is damn near out of the question around here unless you have lots of money."

If you live on a farm and you raise animals, veggies, etc, you most likely eat from your own harvest. But the truth is, little to none of what is in the stores comes from local sources. Go check it out for yourself.

"Do you know any big strong vegans? All the ones I know are Skinny weak and pale. "

Since I belong to a vegan group, I know plenty of vegans. Not one of them looks pale, weak, or skinny. Most could stand to loose a little weight. Your comment on this subject is silly nonsense, and it lowers your credibility.

"What do you suppose we do with all the livestock in our country when you people have your way??? Set them free? 5 million cows wandering around pooping in your water supply."

This comment alone says a lot about your lack of knowledge. It is obvious that your have done no research as to how we have come to have a high number of factory-farmed animals. I'm not going to spell it out for you. I suggest you do some research.

Many like to support their argument for eating meat by declaring that we are omnivores, and that we have been granted lordship over the animals. If you believe that we were granted this right, then I have to assume you are using the Bible as your authority. It seems clear to me that we were meant to be vegetarians, having been placed in a garden that provided all that the human needed for sustenance. It was only after sin entered the picture that humans became conscienceless, greedy, and cruel.

You cannot compare the needs of early times to today. Research is more and more showing the enormous health risks of consuming animals and animal related products. Add to that the devastation to animals created by man in his run-away grab at greed.

It is a myth that Meat is a health food or that it is a life-sustaining food. As a matter of fact, in today's medical awareness, meat has become the food humans die for--literally! But as with all addictions, many would rather suffer bad health and/or death rather than give up what they like. Add to that, the fact that we have been indoctrinated from the cradle that we need to eat meat to live a healthy life--it's called the sheeple syndrome.

There is one factor that remains steady form the beginning of time : man is adaptable and he has a creative nature. When he is forced to create to adapt to the need, he can do it!

Sarah,

You're making a lot of false assumptions about animal advocates. Many of us were raised in rural environments and are familiar with what you call "reality." I grew up in Alaska hunting and fishing (as did one of my vegan/animal advocate friends), and many of my family are rural farmers. When I was 6, my mother took our cat's female kittens out and shot them, because females were difficult to give away because poor rural folk like us refused to shell out $25 to have them spayed. Her justification was that it was just a "fact of life" that we have to do unpleasant things to animals.

And, to answer your questions:

Most farm animal advocates don't purchase wool or lanolin, partly because of the condition you describe (flystrike). Sheep have been selectively bred to have excess folds of skin, which are vulnerable to maggots. To battle this, farmers painfully slice off a patch of skin near the rump, without anesthesia (mulesing). You may have once helped such a sheep, but if you buy products from sheep you are contributing to countless others.

It's nice that you do some things to help animals that you don't plan to eat or use (though you could help 100 or so each year by simply not eating them), but I have no idea why you would think that we wouldn't do the same things:

Obviously, we help and rescue kittens when we can, and volunteer and donate to rescue shelters.

We fight for horses by working to protect them from cruel racing and horrific slaughter (horses are much higher-strung than cattle, which makes their slaughter even more horrific - watch some undercover videos).

Of course, farm animal advocates frequently pay to rescue animal. Offhand, I met a calf at The Animal Place farm animal sanctuary in Grass Valley, CA that an animal advocate purchased in order to save from suffering and slaughter.

Of course most of us would euthanize a fatally injured deer we found hit on the road. One of my vegetarian friends has done that exact horrific thing, when his non-vegetarian friends couldn't stomach doing it. I've euthanized a cat on the spot which appeared to be horribly suffering, which was very unpleasant.

How can you say it's "kind treatment" to unnecessarily breed and kill others for your own satisfaction or profit? If you really kill and eat the ones you love, I'm sure glad you don't love me!

Andrew, you are 1 in a million almost all AR people are from citys they have no clue what its like to work with or be around farm animals. I love animals my favorite being horses but its never stoped me from fishing,hunting or butchering. Animals were put here for us to use HUMANELY of course if not for the horse and dog humans would have died out and if not for cattle swine deer poultry and other animals we would have starved to death We are ment to eat meat. we are Omni

Andrew, you are 1 in a million almost all AR people are from citys they have no clue what its like to work with or be around farm animals. I love animals my favorite being horses but its never stoped me from fishing,hunting or butchering. Animals were put here for us to use HUMANELY of course if not for the horse and dog humans would have died out and if not for cattle swine deer poultry and other animals we would have starved to death We are ment to eat meat. we are Omni

Sarah, thank you for providing yet one more testimony for why this heinous project is a bad idea for young teens: You appear to have been psychologically damaged by not being able to demonstrate your fondness for killing animals in front of your classmates.

The members of your school board were evidently people with wisdom and moral charter; I applaud them.

Desensitized hick chick can't spell. They should be teaching english and grammar, not killing.

Desensitized hick chick can't spell. They should be teaching english and grammar, not killing.

You don't have to eat animals to live or survive! It is a proven fact. We have brains and hands we know better.

Lover, you dare to criticize Ms. Davis because she compares the attitudes towards the treatment of chickens to the same mind-set as those who perputrated the Holocaust. Yet you condone barbaric acts of violence (killing is a violent act when it is deliberate) taught to school children because you were hungry at one time in your life. Did you learn compassion from your life's experiences?

"I must say, you seem quite delusional, suffering from some personality disorder or other mental illness. Very sad actually." It's probably the result of a neutritional deficiency during those times when you were hungry. The chickens saved your life, but obviously not your mental health.

Your rational for supporting the killing of chickens as a school project is scary, to say the least.

Yes sorry, but I put a higher value on HUMAN life (even yours) than I do for an animal raised for food.

I guess we have different ideas of "barbaric acts of violence" (By your definition, animal euthanasia is "a violent act" ......since it's deliberate?).

Yes, I have learned compassion from my life experiences. Thank you for asking.

Just had a full physical for my new job. I am quite sound in mind and body.

Is "neutritional" even a word? Maybe your not getting all the protein, calcium, iron, and vitamin B12 you need in your diet. :)

And lastly.... BOO.... to say the least.

PS
My sincerest apologies to Karen for my comments concerning her mental health. The information I got from reading the article got me thinking about the relative of a friend, who was an "animal hoarder". Lots of similarities between that person's life and Ms.Davis. I probably have the wrong impression.

"Yes sorry, but I put a higher value on HUMAN life (even yours) than I do for an animal raised for food."

Lover, Believe it or not, I place the value of humans above animals. That being said, I suggest you go back and reread what this controversy is about. Here's a clue: it has nothing to do with comparing human value to that of an animal.

"Just had a full physical for my new job. I am quite sound in mind and body."

Obviously your new job does not require a high level of reading and comprehension skills, nor does it require you to be emotionally mature: you don't seem to be able to disagree with others without put-downs and attempts to exalt yourself.

"I guess we have different ideas of "barbaric acts of violence" (By your definition, animal euthanasia is "a violent act" ......since it's deliberate?)."

Absolutely, it is estimated that more than eight million animals in shelters will be "euthanized" (deliberately killed) in the US alone this year. And if you want to see what happens to the animals raised for food under factory conditions, I suggest you go to some of the animal advocate web sits: Mercy for Animals, PETA, HSUS, Farm Sanctuary, In Defense of Animals, etc. View "Meet your meat" and "kfccruelty.com.

Society already has too many factions that promote desensitization to violence in many forms. It does not need to be imbedded in eight grade curriculum where teachers are held in high esteem as authority.

"Humans aren't the only species on earth, we just act like it."

Oh, I'm sorry... I thought when your wrote "she compares the attitudes towards the treatment of chickens to the same mind-set as those who perputrated the Holocaust.", we were discussing "human value to that of an animal." .... treatment of chickens vs treatment of Jews.

Yes, you really take the higher ground when you insinuate that I (by reason of my job) don't have "a high level of reading and comprehension skills" and I'm not "emotionally mature". Not to mention "delusional, suffering from some personality disorder or other mental illness", because we ate chickens to survive.

"Absolutely, it is estimated that more than eight million animals in shelters will be "euthanized" (deliberately killed) in the US alone this year."...........
Animal euthanasia (from the Greek meaning "good death") is the act of humanely killing. Euthanasia methods are designed to cause minimal pain and distress. So, your saying that euthanasia is a "barbaric acts of violence" and you don't condone "barbaric acts of violence"... so what do you do with your beloved 16 year old dog whose suffering from cancer?

I won't complain if you send your kids to a school that employs a vegan project to learn a life lesson, if you don't complain that I send my kids to a school that uses a poultry project to learn a life lesson.

As far as I've know.... the Community hasn't done anything illegal under idaho State Education laws. I'm sure Mrs. Davis (with the help of your $) will pursue the issue.

Whether it was ethically right or wrong seems to be a matter of opinion.
It's clear where we both are on the issue.

Just curious animal-voices... do you live in Southern Idaho or were you steered to this article by UPC's website/plea to post comments?

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.... whatever you choose to eat :)

You must have skipped biology in school then.

Yes, leave the killing to professionals, hide the children from the truth, and lets go get a bucket of Xtra crispy!

www.xenvideo.com

PS, get a side of steroids and GM hormones and we'll turn on the tube to watch horrific deaths on every channel.

What's on your plate tonight?

This is Idaho, not Santa Fe, not everyone is going to be a vegan, sorry. This is the best way to harvest chickens, they get dizzy and pass out when put upside down in the cones.

Stay in California, please. Your ignorance is the only danger we see! Do some real good and fight they way McD's kills their Products!

You should read the news clip better, it is a private school-not the Idaho School system, and each child was given permision to do this so it would be a little hard for that same parent to sue the "System".