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The comments below are from the readers of mtexpress.com and in no way represent the views of Express Publishing Inc. 11/05/09 - 21:39
Lynne Stone makes money off wolves...I can understand her hate towards hunters....So i have to just disregard her lies about wolves not affecting idaho elk herds....We are managing wolves just like every other big game species.....I think it may be a good idea to eliminate the basin and phantom packs....Once she stops seeing dollar signs for her little wolf field trips and paintings...Folks can go back to enjoying the pet wolves in Yellowstone....Lynne is currently under review for Illegally interfering with hunts and harrassing game animals....take her drivel for what its worth.... 11/05/09 - 10:30
Hey let's reintroduce the grizzly to the sawtooth. They actually were here before eradication. How many of you wolf advocates would support that? What's the difference? They are both carnivores. Actually the griz is an omnivore and would love to taste vegetarian liberal meat. 11/05/09 - 18:08
I would. I like all animals. I would even support reintroduction of deer and elk even though they aren't really native to north america. 11/03/09 - 11:33
ok so 2 weeks ago i was hunting and went to fairfelid to eat when i was talking to a guy who had shot a wolf earlier that day who said that the wolf was attacking his cattle he weighed 260 and stood 7'1" tall the guy that had shot the wolf was only 6'4" now you tell me these animals are little cause they are not lets put it as every time a wolf kills an elk or deer it just leaves it for waste so now lets see what you think about these stupid animals. 11/03/09 - 16:34
I have never heard of one that big in Idaho, are your #'s a little off ? 11/03/09 - 17:02
Chuck, for once I agree with you... there is no way it could've been. Your friend must really like over exagerating.... 11/05/09 - 22:22
LA LA LA I Can't hear you! 11/03/09 - 11:27
to all the tree huggers not man is god 11/03/09 - 16:45
Good to see you feel that way but if one gets a kid, it is only a parents fault. Not watching them proves to be a main reason why kids die because of animal attacks. So far, no wild, HEALTHY wolves have killed a human being in North America. You wanna talk? Learn some respect. Killing is wrong and overrated for me. Also, you should learn how to correct your run on sentences my ummm... I really don't know what to call you. Luckily, I don't call names. I really do not care you guys have killed wolves. Have a field day! But if you are going to at least learn some proper respect for the animal. Apparently, you haven't grasped many of these concepts. 11/03/09 - 19:07
Wolflover, you keep asking for "RESPECT". It's like you want some indian ceremony before we get to pull the trigger. Those days are gone, and maybe never happened. I think the word is folklore, and it was bunk. These days you just buy a rifle and bang bang. You might be living in the wrong time frame. But the wolf will die by gut shot, I will bet on that !!! 11/03/09 - 19:35
'Gut shooting' is just another way you make yourself look bad to people like me. I would 'respect' you but I can't due to the fact that your 'gut shoot' ing rambling is really making you look bad. Im sure your fellow hunters would agree, but are either too busy or whatever to tell you. You are acting retarded, ignorant and like a little brat. Learn some respect for everything, maybe you'll learn something, I doubt it though.... 11/03/09 - 20:22
I am not trying to make myself look good. If a wolf dies many deer and elk will live. So I feel like if some one gut shoot's a wolf all the better, they will get to hunt another day. And maybe this will all go away and the deer and elk won't be eaten for your enjoyment. 11/03/09 - 21:01
Well then, may the best soul win. (FYI: I don't think elk and deer are killed for my enjoyement, just part of the foodchain, which aparently you don't know nor understand) 11/03/09 - 21:14
learn to spell, and they weren't part of the food chain until stupid people like you brought in the CANADIAN GREY WOLF which was not part of our wildlife,in Idaho. So just go to sleep thinking people are out there gut shooting the animal to make things better cause people like you screwed it up. LOL and LOL 11/04/09 - 07:41
Now you are comenting on my spelling abillity??? Most of you guys can't spell worth a damn..... I really don't care though.... Anyway, You really need to stop supporting the anti-wolf coalation. Your buddy Ron gives me the creeps that make me unable to sleep at night. I have no clue how you can support his theories and rants. I watched a youtube video about a year ago on him just talking up and ranting about them... Have you seen the anti-wolf coalation's website? Sure is stupid... they claim there are more than 9,000 wolves in Idaho...... See, your buddy lies all of the time and you talk about us introducing the wolf to Idaho... Wanna see?? I will send the link right over if you don't want to google it..... weird how you guys say we are ruining the environment. No matter what you say though all wolves were here before man. What you have got to learn to understand is that wolves were here in NORTH AMERICA! Before humans, even idians set foot on the land. Wanna talk about not native? guess what, Deer and elk aren't native to North America!! WOLVES ARE!!!! 11/04/09 - 12:09
You don't get it, no one is trying to help you with the wolf issue. Think about what it would be like to gut shoot that animal, it just makes you all warm and fuzzy doesn't it. One wolf down means saving 100 deer and elk, maybe more- And I have no buddies or want any support on this issue, I can make my mind up for myself. 11/04/09 - 16:35
Gut shooting is truly evil, and until you show me otherwise you are deemed so. 11/04/09 - 18:33
So you are saying that I am deemed evil. LOL 11/04/09 - 18:38
I went down to Bob's in Hailey and he sold me one of these- check out the pile of coyotes as the pics scroll thru- 11/04/09 - 19:31
Sorry, I don't want to look at it. I don't need to know what you do. Wolves are as much part as the ecosystem as non-native deer and elk. That is what you should learn but can't because your mind is clouded with never-ending hatred.... 11/04/09 - 19:41
That's a nice gun mate, I'm shooting the AR-10 myself, makes those little buggers tip right over it does.. I'm out here on vacation from London, I've slammed 22 of these big gray coyotes in three weeks of walking about.. It's a hoot mate.. I can't wait to see a wolfie... 11/04/09 - 20:16
Antimarxist- ???? you say "mate" a lot and "walking about" that sounds more like an american that has been around some aussies or maybe someone that grew up with aussies, BUT NOT FROM ENGLAND----- I'd say busted- 11/04/09 - 20:49
More like someone from the U.K who has been around Ausies. Anyway, you shouldn't be happy you are killing wolves. I wouldn't, even if my life was at the line. Wolves are truly amazing creatures, one day you just might understand..... 11/04/09 - 20:49
More like someone from the U.K who has been around Ausies. Anyway, you shouldn't be happy you are killing wolves. I wouldn't, even if my life was at the line. Wolves are truly amazing creatures, one day you just might understand..... 11/04/09 - 21:11
The english don't pick up aussie slang, i think they look down on the aussie. it's like why get an aussie shepherd when you can get a german shepherd 11/05/09 - 07:52
I have an aussie shepard mix... Sweetest little thing. Love her and wolves dearly but people who want to kill all wolves are truly ignorant to love and its meaning. Learn some respect, before you pull the trigger.... 11/03/09 - 09:49
I wonder what part of the world wolflover came from. Not Idaho. 11/03/09 - 16:56
Actually, I left a little riddle of where I live a bit ago. Does 'under your nose' ring a bell? Its where I live.... long live wolves. 11/04/09 - 13:56
I'ts not where you live now but where you came from 11/04/09 - 16:43
lived in the same place for years. More like forever so yep that's where I live, under your nose. 11/04/09 - 16:51
And thats why you and the rest should go back 11/04/09 - 17:01
Then tell me, where do I live? Take a wild guess, wolf wild... 11/11/09 - 12:07
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Wolflover, while reading your comments I have come to the conclusion that you are a complete fool. Do you believe the garbage coming out of your own mouth.I would truely like to share your opinions but I know the truth about what the wolves are doing to Idaho wildlife, open your eyes to the facts . Totally unbelievable. 11/03/09 - 07:54
All I have been REALLY trying to point out is that most of the people hunting the wolves haven't learned to respect them. I am saying that because I believe if you are going to hunt something you should at least learn to respect it. I don't support wolf hunting nor would I shoot one myself. If you wish to hunt something, at least give it some respect. 11/03/09 - 08:08
Wolflover, no one is reading this and coming to support your side of BS. Just stop and find a new cause. It sounds like you need a boyfriend. 11/03/09 - 05:34
To Wolf Lover When you turn loose a carnivorus animal into an area like Idaho that has thousands of "peaceful" animals and then the animal you turn loose on them starts to decimate them, leaving many of them to just die from being partially eaten -- that isn't respecting wildlife. You leave that animal in its natural habitat -- Canada -- where it can be respected. Those of us you call wolf haters are actually more concerned for wildlife in general than you and your comments prove that beyound a shadow of a doubt. Your blind, un-realistic "love" for wolves ignores the needs, safety, and well being of all the other wildlife in Idaho. Because of your influence on others who share the same blindness to reality, you are, and I mean this literally, more of a threat to Idaho's amimals then even the wolf. Get a life. 11/03/09 - 07:42
I bet you don't know what decimate means and is Canada not part of North America now? Really, you act as if it was MY choice that Canadian wolves were introduced into Idaho. Isn't Canada basicly right above Idaho? The wolves may have evolved to become bigger than native Idaho wolves but they have been living here for quite a while now. I would say that these Canadian grey wolves are now native to Idaho. BTW I do have a life, a life in which I care for wildlife. If you can't learn to respect a wild wolf, you won't ever catch it, nor, will you understand why you are hunting it. If we rid this predator from Idaho, I can bet you that after a few years, the deer and elk popu will start starving from them being all over the land. There will also be less room, as well as more deer and elk related inccidents. trust me, the ecosystem will be crazy if you rid one animal from a place. 11/03/09 - 08:27
Do you have scientific data to support this thesis, do you have photos of thousands of starving elk and deer from the eight decades of managed hunting in Idaho prior to wolf reintroduction actions ??????????? Where are the states documents which provide evidence of elk and deer growth getting out of control and burdening Idaho's eco systems carrying capacity's and thus starving to death in winter???? We have had more drought years in the last twenty years than we have had deep snow years.. Less snows means wintering ungulates find browse.. Every one respects the wolf here except you, if you did truly respect the wolf you would stop with the lies about the wolf.. 11/03/09 - 13:45
Good posts Backpacker. 11/02/09 - 17:17
Maybe I'm just a dumb redneck from idiot land: Let me see if I understand the ongoing line of the wolf lovers: They say it's wrong to kill wolves because they're just trying to survive like everything else in the world. But when they kill thousands of other animals in relation to their own population, often only eating a small portion of their kill befoe moving on to the next kill -- even taking the unborn from the live mother and leaving her to die -- then that's just peachy cream and fine and dandy! The wolf lovers say they love all animals and it is their so called "love" of wolves that causes them to defend the wolves at all cost. But then when the carnage a relatively small number of wolves inflict on other animals occurs -- that's just fine??? Somebody has a weird and distorted sense of "love" for nature. By the way, the ranchers etc were there long before the "out of place" larger Canadian wolves were introduced to Idaho. Why can't the wolf lovers get this staight? Also, cats are native to Idaho, so why don't they call for a few mating pairs of lions and tigers to be introduced to Idaho?? Snakes are also native to Idaho too, so why don't they clammor for annacondas, cobras, black mambas, and maybe even a few African rock pytons to be "re-introduced" to Idaho?? Oh no ---- now they probably will!! I'm sorry everbody for even bringing the subject up. I guess I'll get the blame when they do. 11/02/09 - 21:33
Wolves were here long before man. Just because they aren't native to Idaho doesn't mean they aren't native to north america. You should learn some respect for the wolves even if they aren't native to this part of north america. I also don't care that hunters have killed 81 wolves. I don't support wolf hunting because I believe it against my nature. But I believe if you are going to hunt something, you should at least learn some level of respect for the creature, before you take its life. 11/02/09 - 16:37
So to CHUCK! Right on! Wolves are a threat to all the animals and humans and they should be taken down! Ever since they introduce the alaskan wolves its gotten 100% worse. 11/02/09 - 21:28
How can you agree with just killing all the wolves in Idaho? Plus they aren't "alaskan wolves' they are from canada. We waste our food too, I wish I could talk to you but you sure don't have a proper ense of grammar or information.... 11/04/09 - 17:08
Canadian wolfs are the worst by far.The true Hitler of the wolfs. Would be nice to see the Sawtooth season stay open long long enough so that maybe some of the bitches can be taken out about the time the little ones hit the ground 11/01/09 - 14:18
I have not found any carbon dating documents to verify trillions of years.. amazing.. 11/03/09 - 11:23
to all the tree huggers not man is god 11/01/09 - 10:35
You missed a few 10/31/09 - 23:46
London is Greg Farber, local lunatic and really bad plumber. 11/02/09 - 06:21
11/02/09 - 09:04
London (or GF), Readers, Don't be like me, wait a few minutes before you hit "send"! Cool off and let cooler heads prevail. 11/02/09 - 10:11
It's ok. I except your gracious apology. And if it is any consolation I am not hunting wolves, for personal reasons basically, it will not help the damaged elk herds, and I do not want a wolf hide or skull.. I have my elk and deer and really can't complain. I have hit post a few times to and was sorry about it later..We're humans. 11/03/09 - 08:15
Talk is cheap prove it. He backs up his info all the time.. 10/30/09 - 15:38
JJ, learn some real respect before you talk. Respect the living wolf. They deserve it. 10/30/09 - 21:00
I'm with you, respect the living wolf and gut shoot'em. Keep em alive for a few hours and you'll get to hunt another day- 10/31/09 - 12:34
Do you have to act that way? gut shooting an animal isn't respectful. You are acting like an @** so please stop. I don't respect people like you. 10/31/09 - 18:43
Here's the deal, we have to edumacate the hunters. If you gut shoot the animal and he or she runs off, you don't have to use your $11.50 tag. And you can go back next weekend and shoot another. The idea is too shoot them all. If you shoot 1 wolf you save the lives of 150 deer and/or elk. The pro lifers are full of it! How can the math lie! 11/01/09 - 08:27
How do you know that in the end, the deer couldn't end up starving to death?Happens all the time during winter. Guess what? you'd be the cause of it too. 11/01/09 - 13:16
Wolflover; you need to learn a few things, the wolf doesn't survive on grass and leaves. He eats meat, so if you love the wolf so much, all you are saying is that you like it when deer and elk are killed by the wolf. You can't have it both ways, he eats meat. Everyday you get hungry, so does the wolf, but when he needs to eat he kills a deer or elk. So if I shoot a wolf I save the lives of many deer and elk. Thats just the way it is, you need to stop being so dramatic and emotional and get a rifle and shoot some wolves, then you can say you did some good for the wildlife in Idaho. PRO LIFE MEANS YOU NEED TO KILL THE WOLVES. That will be the fewest lives lost- 11/01/09 - 13:26
Sorry, I don't hunt. Wolves are beautiful creatures and yes I do know they eat meat! My ummmmmmmm..... earth... you should learn to respect that wolves eat! they do so to SURVIVE! 11/01/09 - 13:38
What is there to respect ?? That he is a killing machine? And he kills for the fun of killing? Maybe you need to refocus your thoughts- Why would any one show this animal any respect? 11/01/09 - 14:23
Now you are spilling your emotions. The wolf is a wild animal and wouldn't you say that humans kill even more of their own kind than wolves do? Wolves kill to protect, eat, or fight. Kind of like us.. except wolves deserve more respect than humans due to the fact that we only see hatred in the yellow eyes of a wolf. 11/01/09 - 16:53
You don't read much do you ? You said " Wolves kill to protect, eat, or fight. " So maybe read this and reply, we are talking about 122 lives died, for your enjoyment. These animals were in a fenced pasture, not roaming animals. And you want people to respect the wolf ????? 11/01/09 - 17:12
I heard that already, thank you. Wolves mostly kill for those reasons. Humans can't say that much because we kill for no apparent reason at times. You don't deserve to hunt an animal if you can't learn to respect it. A lot of you haven't learned how. The ranchers should have taken better care of the animals, or in your terms put more fencing or dogs around the yard. It's not that hard to protect livestock from preditation. We live in a technology era any way. If you are going to live in an area that also contains wildlife then you should not complain if a wild animal ends up eating your livestock. Whining is wrong ranchers and farmers. If you live in that area deal with it. Why are you living there any way if it bothers you? 11/01/09 - 17:51
The funny thing about all this is you always defend the wolf or don't accept his behavior as offensive and he should be respected for running wild and killing stuff. But the thought of man killing him is wrong. The animal is just destined for failure. 11/01/09 - 18:04
Why should it be a human's job to question the wolves' behavior? 11/01/09 - 18:34
Man is the manager, thats what he does. Why wouldn't he control the wolf? Why do you have a problem with man controlling nature ? Your dumb, LOL 11/01/09 - 18:57
Actually, I'm smart. You need to learn how not to judge things just because they are there. Wolves don't just kill. You would know that if you were an expert on wolves but you aren't. Wolves are the only true experts of themselves. 11/01/09 - 19:21
So you said " You need to learn how not to judge things just because they are there." 11/01/09 - 19:45
Well if you are gonna judge it, give it some good characteristics as well, but you are so uneducated that you probably wouldn't understand how. 10/30/09 - 13:29
Another one bites the dust! 10/29/09 - 22:41
Stupid mutt. 10/30/09 - 08:47
Are you referring to Jarvis? 10/31/09 - 14:03
No I was referring to the stupid mutt what allowed itself to be so concentrated on eco system management and elk herding to save Aspens it got itself shot.. Stupid Mutt.. hahaha 10/29/09 - 19:12
Keep up the good work hunters....should start getting easier...that black should show up well against the snowy background....7 more to go.... 10/30/09 - 09:56
you are just sick and wrong. They were here long before we were. What are you afraid that hunting might be a little more challenging for you. The wolves do nothing worng but survive! 10/30/09 - 10:07
I'll name the Wolf that was killed! "Sleeps with Dirt" Okay now lets have a moment of silence! ........ Okay that good! Back to the party... Keep up the great job hunters! 5 more to go in our zone! 10/31/09 - 14:15
True...5 more to meet quota...and the last two will become "problem" wolves and smoked easily by wildlife services while they are harassing cattle... 10/31/09 - 17:01
I can't believe you guys actually want to kill a whole pack. That's wrong. Don't ruin my favorite holiday. 10/31/09 - 17:26
It figures this most pagan, anti Jesus Christ, Satanic paganistic Holiday is your favorite Holiday.. Who gave you wolves and other species to admire.. It sure was not the Devil.. 10/31/09 - 18:04
Halloween is better than christmas and science is why we have wolves. I don't believe in god or jesus. I don't have a religion. Don't dis wolves or halloween. 11/01/09 - 07:48
Sorry to break it to you, but it took trillions and more years for the universe to be created. Plus it still is. The universe and our earth evolved into what we now call home due to the perfect conditions on our earth and wolves. Wolves are amazing creatures. You should learn to respect them, but then again I am talking to a person who most likely wants them all gone but hey it's worth a try. 11/01/09 - 10:40
Yep we came from a tiny little pin sized glob to this blob in a trillion and more years... How about a quadrillion, the more we stretch time out the more evolutionism ism ism ism ism is believable.. 11/01/09 - 10:59
It took quite a long time bub. A long time for mamals and then eventually wolves and cats came from some mixed creature. pretty amazing, science explains everything, or close to it. 11/01/09 - 11:25
It's taking even longer to prove it.. LMAO. 11/01/09 - 13:21
Actually, that's true.... 11/02/09 - 15:47
This type of wolf, the Canadian Grey Wolf was never here to begin with. Does the word Canadian mean anything to you? Duh. It never was A reintroduction, it was an introduction of A non native species to this area people. Get it straight. 11/02/09 - 21:44
Okay so it's not native to the U.S.A. It is native to the north america. This makes it a related species to the Idahoan or american grey wolf which most likely is extinct due to the introduction of the canadian grey wolf to the amerca's. Doesn't mean we didn't have reason to. I believe we introduced them to learn and understand more about them. 11/03/09 - 07:59
I read a story on this when they were in Canada and talking to the locals during the time when the wolves were being gathered up to be sent to Idaho. The locals all had the same comment,"why would you folks do this ? " The same thing happened when the pro wolf group tried to stop the hunt by saying they could move some of the wolves to other states. The result was no other state would take the wolf. I just ordered a new scope for my rifle, thanks "wolflover", I wouldn't have so much motivation with out you. Leave a Comment
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