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Friday, October 30, 2009

Levy passes


By TERRY SMITH
Express Staff Writer

Blaine County's electorate approved a 10-year, $59.8 million Blaine County School District plant facilities levy Thursday. The margin was 59 percent to 41 percent. Fifty-five percent approval was needed for passage.

The election, held five days before the Nov. 3 general election, drew 3,220 votes, representing about 27 percent of Blaine County's registered voters.

At Bellevue Elementary, 354 votes were cast, with an approval percentage of 47 percent. At Carey School, 207 votes were cast, with 65 percent approval. At Hailey Elementary, 1,002 votes were cast, with 58 percent voting yes.

There were 991 votes cast at Hemingway Elementary, with 57 percent approving the levy. At Woodside Elementary, 205 votes were cast, with 71 percent approval.

Absentee votes numbered 461, with 67 percent approval.

The school district proposed the measure to raise $5.98 million per year over the next 10 years to fund new technology, safety and security upgrades, building repairs, alternative energy development, resource conservation measures, new classrooms and a new elementary school in the future if needed.

The levy replaces two existing tax assessments that will both end on about July 1, 2010. The two existing assessments raised about $62 million during the past 10 years at a cost of $167 per year to the owner of an average-priced home in Blaine County.

The new levy will actually be a modest tax decrease, assessing the same homeowner $158 per year.

Terry Smith: tsmith@mtexpress.com


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Randy Leighton
11/03/09 - 13:59

I voted against the levy on Thursday and then left town on business. I learned of the results later, the levy passed.
It is truly a sad day in Blaine county, very sad. I am so dissappointed in the school district on this robbery.
I hope there is something that can be done, a recount or something. Maybe a new vote, done properly? If anyone has any thoughts, feel free to contact me.

Outraged but not surprised
11/03/09 - 11:21

Taxation Poem

Tax his land, tax his wage,
tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
teach him taxes is the rule.
Tax his cow, tax his goat,
tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
tax the roads he must pass.
Tax his food, tax his drink,
tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
if he cries, tax his tears.

Tax his bills, tax his gas,
tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
that after taxes, he has no dough.
If he hollers, tax him more,
tax him until he's good and sore.

Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
tax the sod in which he lays.
Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom!"
and when he's gone, we won't relax,
we'll still be after the inheritance tax!

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Outraged but not surprised
11/03/09 - 11:29

found this by googling for poem on taxation. it's attributed to "anonymous"

Reply to Outraged but not surprised
disgusted
11/03/09 - 14:42

Thank you Outraged, that's the one!
It kind of says it all and unfortunately it's all too true!
We have slipped too far into Socialism. Our founding fathers must be rolling in their graves. How did it come to this.
I must also mention the Land Trust Levy (as someone else also has). That's on my new tax bill as well. I'm sorry, I like open space as much as the rest of us, but, gee whizz, aren't we completely surrounded by it? I mean gimmie a break!!!!!
I'm trying to figure out how I can get a Levy for Me, Me, Me on the ballot. Maybe I should contact the school district and hire the same guys they did............It has worked out soooooo well for them!
Greg and Brian, I'm ready. You guys make more sense to me every day. Take me, I'm starting to believe (except for the wolf stuff......I just like furry critters).
We had all better wake up before we start (in the words of one of our coolest residents, Mr. Steve Miller)............ "goin' back to the USSR". I wanna be "livin' in the US of A"!

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London
11/03/09 - 16:14

Before the Reformation the tax man took it all, now with the Reformation coming to and end the same entity which did it in the dark ages is gonna do it again in the return to the "New Ages". It's the wealthiest corporation on earth..Wait until obama signs america over to the U.N. in Copenhagen next month, then you'll see more taxes.

Geoff
11/03/09 - 09:34

In the past 10 years (the tax levy that's expiring) the school district added approximately $60,000,000 worth of infrastructure, and over the next 10 years will add another $60,000,000 worth of infrastructure. WOW!!! Where will the money come from to hire the necessary people to maintain all of these projects. We don't even know what the school district plans to do with all this money. So instead of hiring teachers in the future we'll be hiring a bunch of janitors and maintenance personal for the upkeep of all this stuff. Or will the school district find another way to pick our pockets.

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disgusted
11/03/09 - 09:46

Geoff,
The answer is your last line.
They will find another way to pick our pockets.
Mr. Barber made this clear 2 weeks ago at a meeting at the community campus.
The are already planning another Levy for 2013 and 2017. Ask Mr. Barber, if he does not confirm it, I have a 2 hour audio recording of that meeting.
Leave a post here and I will figure out a way to make it public.

Reply to Geoff
disgusted
11/03/09 - 09:56

Geoff,
The answer is your last line.
They will find another way to pick our pockets.
Mr. Barber made this clear 2 weeks ago at a meeting at the community campus.
The are already planning another Levy for 2013 and 2017. Ask Mr. Barber, if he does not confirm it, I have a 2 hour audio recording of that meeting.
Leave a post here and I will figure out a way to make it public.

I've stayed quiet, until now – Ketchum
11/02/09 - 21:38

Here's my position.
I was born and raised in Blaine County. I am a 58 year old man. I went to school here. I left the state for college and stayed away until I was 44 years old. I knew I would never make enough money to afford to own a home here and have a good job if I stayed. Sun Valley was getting very expensive and I saw the writing on the wall. It was always my dream to come back when I could afford it. In 1995 I moved back and bought a home in Ketchum for $310,000. I did a remodel on my home over the next 5 years mostly with my own hands. I really stretched to make that happen. Every extra dollar I had was spent on my house. I wanted to stay. It was the first house I ever bought. I wanted it to be the last. The county says it is now worth $1,900,000. but I could never sell it for that. Never. I pay $12,755. per year in property taxes plus any levy's. Like most of you, the recession has hit me hard. I have 3 jobs just to keep my head above water. I'm not going to make it. Putting it on the market right now (which breaks my heart) is a waste of time since it won't sell anyway. There are 5 other homes for sale on my block and the signs have been there for over a year. I am a single person with no kids. I really wish I had kids, but it never worked out. Even if I could fire sale it, I could get maybe $1,000,000. I owe $450,000. That means I have about $550,000. equity. As a single person I get a $200,000. tax exemption. That means I would pay capital gains on $350,000.
Like many people I know, if I could sell, I will have to move south if I want to stay, which I do.
This levy will cost me about $700. plus my regular property taxes per year. I'm done.
That's just my story, and I know I'm not the only one.
Thanks Blaine County School District for putting through such a levy in such a devious way. You have taught me a big lesson. You should be proud.
Even now I don't feel sorry for myself, I feel sorry for other people in this valley who are in a similar position. Older people on a fixed income and families with children that are struggling. And for what? A district that is the richest in the state? You don't even need the money.
You should be ashamed.
I have never used the word "I" so much in my life and never will again.
It's just my story.

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brian mcnary
11/03/09 - 02:07

Ah, c'mon whats a paltry 700 bucks a year? You could be a great patriot like "hmm"...busy patting himself, or herself, on the back for being a patriot while voting on a "black ops ballot" to more ridiculous gov spending...

Your letter summarizes why working stiffs were forced to flee Ketchum and cash out. That shift turned Ketchum's fun loving culture into a giant "wrinke room" culture. A giant retirement community with invisible gates. Think about that.

I wrote about the great heist here, under the spendulus maximus piece...

thecivillibertarian.blogspot.com

Reply to I've stayed quiet, until now
disgusted
11/03/09 - 08:25

Brian McNary,
I remember a long poem about taxation that someone copied a long time ago. It was about taxation. It went something like.......Tax my cart, tax my horse, etc.......
It went on for a long time.
Do you know what I mean?
If you can find it, could you post it here? It would be nice to see the whole text rather than a link. I will look for it myself, but I just thought you might know of which I speak.
Thanks.

Reply to I've stayed quiet, until now
disgusted
11/03/09 - 09:37

Maybe it's time we let 2nd homeowners vote. They have to pay this tax just like the rest of us homeowners.
Maybe it's time we don't let renters vote on property tax issues. They don't have to pay for it.
The way it's set up now is like letting your neighbor control your business when he has no stock in it.
Does GM let Ford make their corporate decisions for them?
I read a lot of negative posts about 2nd home owners in this valley. Don't they shop locally, go out to local restaurants, Atkinsons, ski here, hire contractors, landscapers and pay big time property taxes, etc.?
I thought the Boston Tea Party's slogan was "No taxation without representation". 2nd home owners get NO representation, but plenty of taxation.
Renters get plenty of representation but no taxation.
Yes, I know renters pay taxes,,,,,,,income, etc., but only property taxes pay for our schools.
Just a thought.

State of Edu
11/02/09 - 11:49

Desktop/School1.mp3

cn – Hailey
11/02/09 - 09:55

Why did they not have this vote on election day??

Answer,is because it would not have passed.

warm springs resident
11/02/09 - 07:58

Children are our best investment for the future. Providing an exceptional learning facility and experience is part of the big picture. Hopefully they will learn to give back too. Understandably so, the economic situation is less than to be desired.The price of everything had gone up. Let's count our blessings and try to work together . If your not satisfied, then leave the valley and go to another school district.

Reply to warm springs resident
x
11/03/09 - 09:29

Why should we "invest" in a so-called "geothermal" system built by an out of state contractor that will take a century to pay for itself? Why should we "invest" in a system of hi-def security cameras and remote locking classroom doors? A real terrorist hacker would have a field day with that one. Not one dime of the levy will go to teacher salaries or improved curriculum. Instead, it will fund pork projects put together by a good-old-boy network. Plenty of people have left the valley already. They can't afford this B.S. We already spend twice per student compared to every other school district in Idaho with very little more to show for it.

Reply to warm springs resident
hmm
11/03/09 - 13:51

Warm Springs,
This is clearly not the forum for those who believe in sacrificing a little to invest in the future of this county and country. You take that long term thinking elsewhere. After all, BCSD spends more per student than any other district in the state (which ranks 47th in the nation). Further more, we as a nation already rank 37th globally in education spending compared to GDP, which puts us just bellow Latvia and Estonia. Clearly we are spending plenty on the no good kids who will never end up taking care of us in our old age. How dare you suggest we give up the amount of money the average coffee drinker spends per year on their beverage, just to pay for improvements to the education system. It's "me, me, me, right now, now, now" remember?

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Hailey Mom
11/03/09 - 15:41

WOW! This post is about as close to "Let them eat cake" as I've ever seen. The post from the gentleman above explains quite eloquently why it is no simple thing for someone to "just pick up and leave the valley if they don't like it." I love all four of my children dearly. I painstakingly plan for and sacrifice for their future. Just because I don't leave around a stack of blank, signed checks for them to use at will does not mean I am not investing in their future. But now it seems Blaine County has stolen and written itself a check for about $800 annually based on tax-assessed value of properties I own here (and would gladly sell if I could get what I owe on them....).

London
11/02/09 - 06:32

Have we reached a quadrillion in debt yet ?

Fire up the printing presses, chop some trees, call Dupont for the chemicals and inks, we needs more monopoly "money"..

How did mankind ever make it all these centuries with out ink and paper, and credits, interests, taxes...

Better lower the legal wage slave age soon this population of really really smart folks is getting waaaaaaay behind financially..

We need child laborers working 18 hour days like the Chinese... No more pay checks just cabbage...

I love marxists, their really fun to watch.

brian mcnary
11/02/09 - 01:53

You know why this levy has people upset?

It is a function of what I call Minority Rule. The minority, 27%, just sent a bill to the majority, the 73% that didn't show up or don't live here and were unable to vote due to slack or just didn't care. Our area is particularly vulnerable to that exploitation-far more so than other communities. The district knows those irregularities and demographics well. They also knew they won't be able to do this a year from now.

Taxpayer/voter anger has a lot to do with fair play. We will all agree that life's not fair, but rigging an election to attract the least amount of voters is underhanded and conniving. In fact, it is deplorable.

A 27% turnout is sickening.

This is not a game where you seek out some obscure rule or law and exploit it with the intent of defeating an adversary. This is not golf or bocce ball. This is supposed to be government ruled by the people and for the people. And good sportsmanship dictates that you make it as accessible to the widest array of participants as possible.

This did not happen here. Sadly, it could have. Most certainly it should have. The district should be ashamed of themselves for the way they conducted themselves and this election. Thankfully, there are those that understand the spirit of the law, rather than the rule of law. Unfortunately, those folks don't work for the district.

I am a harsh critic of self seeking and bad governance. I offer no apologies for that. School district heads spend atrocious amounts of taxpayer money but sadly they are not elected or subject to voter approval. They are insulated from recall and because of that, they can pull stunts like this and get away with it. And retire. And have days dedicated to them.

Hailey Mom
11/01/09 - 22:32

I would gladly vote for: more teachers, more counselors, higher salaries for existing good teachers, and to attract more highly-skilled teachers to the valley. I would vote for expanded teacher training. For improved arts/music curriculum in schools. I would gladly fork over my cash for those things that truly improve a child's education. But a geothermal heating system? A 7-figure video/security system? Funds for a new elementary school while we face declining enrollment? Oh please! Sadly, these are just more reasons why if there is any way I can swing it, my 2 young children will never walk thru the door of a Blaine County public school.

Reply to Hailey Mom
disgusted
11/02/09 - 08:55

Hailey mom,
You are correct.
I disagree with one thing. Salaries. According to Mr. Barber a teacher with 15 years teaching experience makes $88,000. a year at the Blaine County School District. They get every holiday your kids do including the summer off (3 months). Classes start at 8am and finish by 3pm. That's a 6 hour day when you take out the lunch hour. Figure about 8 months work and 6 hours a day.
Add in full medical coverage for their whole family and great retirement benefits.
If you do the math, they make a lot, an awful lot!

kris – hailey
11/01/09 - 19:53

I can`t wait. There`s work for locals at the school.

Reply to kris
(blank)
11/02/09 - 08:38

Wrong. Most of the money, especially the so-called "geothermal" money, will go to out-of-state contractors. There are no local contractors qualified to build school facilities. This whole thing is a scam.

yikes
11/01/09 - 16:43

At least this isn't about the wolf !
I never stop being dumbfounded by the hatred directed towards people who have lived there lives here in this Valley and State. You come into our State and Valley thinking you are better - then complain when you have to pony up for the education of our children. The disgust of an American Education is just another way to make you feel better about yourself. So did you get your education in the good ole USA?
The really sad thing about all of this is that only 27% of the voters voted. Maybe you should try to fix that rather than beat up on the locals and renters.
I remember when you could drive to Stanley without passing many cars and the hills where full of wildlife now they are full of your homes second or first doesn't matter you took the raw beauty and built your home now pay the piper and educate our children.

Tammy Castle – Carey
11/01/09 - 14:40

Bottom line is does the BCSD need this money to provide excellent education for our students? Is the BCSD currently and over the past 10 years providing excellent education for our students leaving no child behind? I will have to argue no on both counts. As I read the current student/adult ratio I do not understand why we, as the richest and most highly staffed district in the state, are leaving children behind. Charles, I appreciate that you admitted not being crazy about how the school district pushed this. However, I argue that you labeled who cannot likely spell and construct a reasonable sentence. A year ago, I addressed this very thing when my child was receiving an A in English but could not "construct a reasonable sentence". The teacher told me he was more concerned with the "Content" than the spelling, punctuation and construction of the sentence. Perhaps that is our problem. We are more concerned with the "Content" or the amount we are getting than what we are actually teaching these kids.

Throughout the last 10 years, I have seen several kids in our district who were passed on up into middle school and high school who only test at 3rd or 4th grade levels in Reading, English and Math skills. This is due to the lack of individual attention from and by some teachers to notice when these kids are having trouble and unwillingness to make an extra individual effort to help them. I recently experienced this with one of my children who tested among top of the class in ISAT Math testing in the spring of 2009. This fall, the same child was getting a D+ in Math with over 60% of the grades in the grade book at a C or below and was labeled a trouble-maker. Luckily, I was made aware of it (not by the teacher or the school) and this child has brought the grade up. I found that small, basic concepts were simply not understood yet nobody was catching it. All there needs to be is a little awareness when children are misunderstanding these concepts. In my opinion, with the adult/student ratio we currently have, this should not be happening. Consequently, these kids become labeled as 'trouble makers', especially those who do not have a strong parental support system at home. Several are now past ages where we can effectively help them only because they slipped through the cracks in the last 3-4 years. My point is that the best education requires time and awareness not a pretty classroom.

'Frustrated' comments that 207 voters voted 'yes' with 49 people in Carey employed by BCSD. Actually, it was 65% of 207 which means that 134 voted yes and 73 voted 'no'. I agree that with 49 being employed and bullied by BCSD it is a 'no wonder'.

I think the BCSD has actually hurt our kids, not just because of this levy but because of the way they handled it. Many, including those who voted 'yes', do not believe that the BCSD conducted this voting process fairly and ethically and I am among those people. Everyone knows that the BCSD did this in the manner they did because this is the only way they felt it would pass. What is the most unfortunate is in the end, I fear the kids will actually pay a big a price because many do not believe this was handled fairly. My example is the Land Trust. I voted against that but the majority voted 'yes'. It passed fairly. Therefore, I accept defeat and pay the tax without any disagreement what-so-ever. The reason for this upheaval is simply due to the shady tactics that was used for this levy.

Therefore, I do believe that we, as tax payers need to hold the BCSD responsible for how this money is spent. We need to demand that they use it insuring that no child is labeled or left behind. Lastly, the glass can be half full or half empty. This IS an educational experience for my children. With the number of people now who will not support school associated fund raisers now, I hope my kids will learn a valuable lesson (although this was not their doing). I hope they will see through this that the only way to achieve something is through honesty and fairness. They will learn that in the end, more damage than good can be done when we 'bully' or manipulate to get our way. I hope they will learn through my example in this posting that it is okay to stand up for what you believe in regardless of what their opinion is. I hope their generation will continue to enjoy the rights and freedoms we all enjoy including the freedom of speech that we are exercising.

I do not want my children reading the name-calling comments. This is a really childish way to get a point across to all who have done this. How do we teach our children not to call names when they disagree when even adults can't follow the same rule?

God Bless You All and God Bless America!

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Tammy Castle – Carey
11/01/09 - 14:43

This is continued from below

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Outraged but not surprised
11/01/09 - 17:49

Thank You !!! For your courage, your convictions and principles, your forthright honesty and your excellent example for the rest of us. Your family and community should be proud of you. I just hope the "villains" in this affair don't cause you pain.
When I voted, Hemingway school had several signs posted against bullying and reminding students "attitude is important". It's a shame that BCSD employees are such hypocrites, willing to bully anyone who doesn't toe their "party line". Their attitude shouts that it's ok to play dirty; winning is everything; the ends do justify ANY means, and on and on. I really wonder how we came to this "us against them" mentality, in what used to be our friendly little valley!

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Tammy Castle
11/01/09 - 20:28

Dear 'Outraged but not surprised'
Thank you for your kind comments towards me. Fortunately, there are no 'villains' here in Carey. Carey is still a very friendly valley. If I did not believe that, I would not have had the courage to associate my name or perhaps even comment my own concerns and opinion. I do want to be clear that my intention is not to offend anyone. The Large Majority of our school is equipped with exceptional teaching staff, many who taught me as a child. Regardless of these concerns of mine, I must end with announcing that I am very proud of Carey School as a whole and consider myself lucky to live here.

Tammy Castle – Carey
11/01/09 - 14:36

First and foremost, I applaud all of the comments here who have included their names for your personal integrity regardless of whether you are for or against the levy. In controversial issues like these, it is difficult to find the personal strength and integrity to stand up for what you believe without being anonymous as many of us fear the political consequences of our actions. None of us want long time friends to become enemies simply because of our differences in opinion. I too, have taken time to contemplate how to voice my concerns and whether or not to associate my name with these concerns at the risk of my children who are enrolled in the Blaine County School District, our friendships and our business. With that being said, I have decided to voice my concerns regardless of this risk because I want my children to learn (hopefully by example) to stand up for what they believe in regardless of political pressure or bullying. This concern is substantiated by the unnecessary name-calling all over these comments. If this is okay for adults, how can we teach our children to behave differently?

When I first learned of this levy, I was somewhat "on the fence". I believe strongly in education for ALL children, not only my own. We, like many caring businesses and individuals in this community, enthusiastically support not only school programs but also community organizations and families in need. My own children have benefited wonderful opportunities from the generous contributions caring people and businesses have given to them not only in the school programs they are involved in but also through Blaine County 4H and Rodeo programs. I have read and looked at this levy very carefully so that I was confident that my vote would not take away from any child's educational opportunity.

On the other hand, I was and am concerned about the state of our economy and those close friends of ours whom have no idea how they are going to even keep their house or business at no fault of their own. No one can argue that the market is down, yet I doubt there is a property tax payer who has seen this in their tax assessments. As someone mentioned to me, it will not be surprising if by next year, our country is in a straight hard depression. With all of us Americans under such a threat, it is hard to justify $60 million over the next 10 years for 'facilities' that are already among the best in the state. Many schools I visit do not even have functioning closing doors for the bathroom stalls.

The district pushed this as this will "lower" your taxes. The fact of the matter is voters were promised that the last taxation would last 10 years. Now, they are saying "10 years". In 2020, it will be another "10 years". I am afraid of what fear tactics the school district will use at that time as my personal experience with the tactics used this time topped the unethical charts. Telephone calls were made to me at my home, at my business and on my cell phone by school district officials or levy committee members in an attempt to sway a "yes" vote out of me. In addition, teachers spoke to my children even to the point of one teacher threatening one of my children through saying "Your parents had better vote 'Yes' if they ever want to see a bus stop at their business again." I was greatly shocked and dismayed by this unethical 'bullying' by a teacher who is educating my children.

Due to the state of our economy and the people I personally know throughout this state who have no idea where their next penny is going to come from tomorrow, I was concerned about this levy. I fell off the fence two days before the vote when I attended a parents' meeting for a school function that one of my children is involved with. We were discussing an upcoming field trip to California. During this meeting, the advisor/teacher said that this department receives $10,000.00 every 3 years that is dedicated towards aiding in specific parts of an educational activity. The teacher said "we never use all of this money." Paid BCSD individuals exclaimed "Let's use it all! Why aren't we using it? I'm serious! Let's figure out how we can use ALL this money!" I give them the benefit of the doubt that they were joking. I must say, however, other property tax paying business owners, my husband and I, who are consistently supporting these functions, were not laughing. I was shocked by these comments that were vocalized by our school officials only two days before this levy vote. I commend the teacher in charge for his professionalism and dismissal of their brainstorming and comments on how to unnecessarily use ALL this money provided by the district.

No tears
10/31/09 - 18:11

Heaven forbid a second homeowner has to pay less than $160 a year to the local schools. I am a property owner and I have owned property in other counties. The taxes here are already lower than other places I have lived. It sounds like a lot of you should have played WRHS football. Then you would be a little more gracefull at loosing.

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disgusted
10/31/09 - 23:34

Loosing?
And you attended school? In America?
Get your money back!
I seriously doubt you own any property, but if you do, what is your name and address? I'll fact check!
Speaking of facts, get yours straight. $160 a year? That must be for one square foot of bare land. Lower than other places you've lived? Where......Hong Kong?
If you played football, you must have been hit in the head too many times. I hate liars like you. The money I paid for your education was wasted!
Another renter plant!

Eva Golden
10/31/09 - 10:58

reply to hmmm
You think it is okay to teach and lead our children into an election based on smoke and mirrors and trickery? Or school district administration are cons, scammers, cads. Not what I want my children to be modeled after.

hmm
10/31/09 - 09:53

Considering all the negative comments, you would think the levy would have failed. As it turns out, a completely legal voting process allowed the majority of the caring registered voters in this county to pass it. Like it or not, it's done. That is how this county and country work. Next time try to mobilize support against it ahead of time. I applaud my fellow yes voters who are so patriotic they will sacrifice a small amount of their money to benefit the future generations who will serve and lead this fine country. That selfless nature is what will make this country prosper.

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Disgusted
10/31/09 - 10:23

Hmm,
"A majority of the caring voters registered voters"? Only 27% of the registered voters voted in this election and only 59% of those voted "YES".
Mr. Barber is on record saying he didn't want a large turnout. He only wanted yes votes and he got them by making it a LEVY and not a BOND and he got it done 5 days before the general election. I'll bet most of those YES votes came from renters who will never have to pay a dime for it! So much for your term "selfless".
The Boston Tea Party used the term "no taxation without representation". Renters should not have been allowed to vote anyway. How about "no representation without taxation"? Second homeowners were not allowed to vote and they certianly will have to pay this tax as well as any taxes imposed on their FIRST home.
Fair is fair, right... .Hmmmmmmmmm.

Reply to hmm
hmm
10/31/09 - 12:25

Only 27% cared enough to show up. That is what is meant by caring voters. Your position is renters should not be allowed to vote? What's next, only white people can vote?! For the record, I am a home owner who lives here year round and I voted yes. It's a small price to pay for some long term thinking. Where do your statistics of renters vs. owner voters come from anyway?

Reply to hmm
brian mcnary
11/01/09 - 01:20

Once again, apathy won the day. I'm not sure patriotism has anything to do with it-but if you wanna label yourself a patriot for voting on a levy...be my guest.

And just how is it possible that these CS elections are legal? I got two words, you'll find them here..

thecivillibertarian.blogspot.com

Reply to hmm
hmm
11/01/09 - 22:44

Reply to Brian

Wouldn't "apathy lost the day" be more appropriate? Voting for our children is something I do "wanna" call patriotic. Not only does the love of my country come through in participating in the voting process, I show support for our future generations and the people we have elected to educate them. As far as the "be my guest" comment, think highly of yourself lately? We know why you are bitter with government.

Reply to hmm
brian mcnary
11/02/09 - 00:37

Unlike you, I am no coward. I sign my name.
That pretty much says it all.

Eva Golden
10/31/09 - 08:55

Let us all go back to our days in school......Did any of you voters ever attend a school as nice and as wonderful as the schools here in the WRV? I doubt it, even my catholic upbringing and catholic school was not a very modern or high tech or even a beautiful building. It was clean and functioning. ( Funded by the parents of students and the parishioners.) It was place we went to learn. Despite the plain building and small sports field I did receive an excellent education WITHOUT all the bells and whistles. Does it have to look like a club house? Do the teachers teach each and every one of our students in a better manner inside these clubhouses? Do the kids respect the schools because they are so pretty? NO they do not. Just go to the parking lot at the High school and take note of all the rubbish in the parking lot...students do not care...janitors do NOT care...teachers do NOT care and administration does NOT care. The schools uses trash pick up for punishment. But NOT during week days when their peers can see them.
I voted NO and encouraged everyone I came in contact with to vote NO...I guess I wasn't loud enough or my agenda misunderstood. After all "our taxes won't increase" they all said. While soccer moms and dads were pushing their agenda so junior could have a pretty place to learn. I voted NO. And even though it was still passed thanks to the sneaky way the election was held, the only way now I can fight it is to NOT participate with my own time and money ( besides the stealing of my daily tax dollars). NO games will I attend. NO cookie will I bake. NO memorial brick will I purchase. NO school function will I attend or support. NO book drives, NO gift wrap NO candy bars NO season sports pass. ALL of which I have done not only for my kids but the neighborhood kids and friends children. And foremost taking on a senior for his or her project NO WAY I will not do that again. Call me selfish, cold hearted, head in the sand, uneducated. Or call me what I really am...a property owning, business owning woman conned by the school district to get my hard earned money stolen against my will.
The school has made a mockery of the levy and it will be a line item budget in their books forever. Thanks Jim Lewis and Lonnie Barber.Enjoy your pensions, your benefits and your day.I double dare you to write back and tell us about your salary, your benefits, your pensions and your liberties we all pay for. I'll call you thieves, your Jim Lewis Day should be spent in the new Blaine County Jail that Walt built for " his friends and family". Because cons/thieves should be together.
P.S. My kids graduated from WRHS. Now their education has truly begun.

Reply to Eva Golden
dismayed at district deceit
10/31/09 - 09:55

Thank you for the good idea! I too will NOT support ANY school functions, fund raisers, etc. I've always thought it was amazingly rude to make the kids sell stuff around the neighborhood "to support our school", when my tax bill showed I'd already "contributed" plenty to the schools! A boycott of all school functions, by all of us who voted "NO", might make a slight difference to them - especially if we're very vocal about it!

Reply to Eva Golden
Disgusted
10/31/09 - 09:58

Eva,
Well said. It looks like I mirrored your educational experience.
Someone else shares your experience.. he was born in a one room house and educated in a one room school house. What was his name....... .Oh, I have it here somewhere...Oh yeah, Abraham Lincoln.
But, alas, I digress, our kids won't share our experiences. You see, they already have fancy schools funded by the last $60,000,000. Levy passed with the same tactics in April of 2000! And that Levy lasts for another year! The district has a pattern of putting shady measures on the ballot. And they are already planning the next one..UNBELIEVABLE!
And these guys are teaching our kids what?

Reply to Eva Golden
Jean Jacques Bohl – Hailey
10/31/09 - 11:13

I have been teaching at WRHS since 1987. How dare you say that as a teacher I do not care about trash in the parking lot? I pick up trash every day when I arrive at school at 6:00 AM. Yes, you tread it right. I go to work at 6:00 AM so that I have time to plan and be a better teacher. Have you ever come to my classroom? By the way I am a property owner in Blaine County and I pay property taxes just like you. Just like you I deduct that amount from my federal taxes.

Reply to Eva Golden
Student
11/01/09 - 17:07

you spelt neighbourhood wrong. We don't want your dirty cookies. I love WHRS

Reply to Eva Golden
Student
11/01/09 - 17:07

you spelt neighbourhood wrong. We don't want your dirty cookies. I love WHRS

Reply to Eva Golden
Student
11/01/09 - 17:07

you spelt neighbourhood wrong. We don't want your dirty cookies. I love WHRS

Eva Golden
10/31/09 - 08:54

Let us all go back to our days in school......Did any of you voters ever attend a school as nice and as wonderful as the schools here in the WRV? I doubt it, even my catholic upbringing and catholic school was not a very modern or high tech or even a beautiful building. It was clean and functioning. ( Funded by the parents of students and the parishioners.) It was place we went to learn. Despite the plain building and small sports field I did receive an excellent education WITHOUT all the bells and whistles. Does it have to look like a club house? Do the teachers teach each and every one of our students in a better manner inside these clubhouses? Do the kids respect the schools because they are so pretty? NO they do not. Just go to the parking lot at the High school and take note of all the rubbish in the parking lot...students do not care...janitors do NOT care...teachers do NOT care and administration does NOT care. The schools uses trash pick up for punishment. But NOT during week days when their peers can see them.
I voted NO and encouraged everyone I came in contact with to vote NO...I guess I wasn't loud enough or my agenda misunderstood. After all "our taxes won't increase" they all said. While soccer moms and dads were pushing their agenda so junior could have a pretty place to learn. I voted NO. And even though it was still passed thanks to the sneaky way the election was held, the only way now I can fight it is to NOT participate with my own time and money ( besides the stealing of my daily tax dollars). NO games will I attend. NO cookie will I bake. NO memorial brick will I purchase. NO school function will I attend or support. NO book drives, NO gift wrap NO candy bars NO season sports pass. ALL of which I have done not only for my kids but the neighborhood kids and friends children. And foremost taking on a senior for his or her project NO WAY I will not do that again. Call me selfish, cold hearted, head in the sand, uneducated. Or call me what I really am...a property owning, business owning woman conned by the school district to get my hard earned money stolen against my will.
The school has made a mockery of the levy and it will be a line item budget in their books forever. Thanks Jim Lewis and Lonnie Barber.Enjoy your pensions, your benefits and your day.I double dare you to write back and tell us about your salary, your benefits, your pensions and your liberties we all pay for. I'll call you thieves, your Jim Lewis Day should be spent in the new Blaine County Jail that Walt built for " his friends and family". Because cons/thieves should be together.
P.S. My kids graduated from WRHS. Now their education has truly begun.

Disgusted
10/30/09 - 18:13

If anyone is interested in forming a group to challenge this Levy I would be happy to put in time, effort and even money to help. Any suggestions as to how to proceed, meet, organize? Should we build a web site? Write your ideas here and we'll see how to get this done. I am totally appalled with the way this was done. Let's figure this out!

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Outraged but not surprised
10/30/09 - 18:35

Unfortunately, it appears that the underhanded tactics are technically legal - as I found out when I called various state agencies about this election. You've probably read that, effective 7-1-2010, state law requires school district elections like this to be on the same day as the general election - which is why, I'm sure, our officials were in such a hurry to push this now. The only point of possible challenge that I can see (but I'm not a lawyer) is the folks who actually urged voters to vote "yes" right outside the polling place (school). That should be pursued, to the state attorney general's office, since they broke a federal law. Of course, the attorney general would need proof - so it depends on whether everyone involved is willing to take this further. How about it ????!!!!

Reply to Disgusted
disgusted
10/30/09 - 20:20

Actually it's July 1, 2011.

Reply to Disgusted
mpc
10/30/09 - 22:49

Is it legal? I do not know, but every time in the past a vote came out to raise the property taxes, there had to be a two thirds majority. The prison was passed in such an underhanded way, I did not think that legal, at the time, but perhaps it is. Are we just going to throw away convention, for the gain of a priveliged few?

charles w – hailey
10/30/09 - 14:42

I'm happy it passed. It's a good deal for the district. I'm not crazy about the way they pushed it, but it doesn't change the fact that this is good for the community overall. There's a few angry people in here, but it's clear most haven't read the levy. If they had they would know what they levy is for and why the levy is better than a bond. But anyone who has time to read and think about the levy can likely spell and construct a readable sentence too.

TO MIKE
10/30/09 - 14:21

Mike. It is obvious you are not footing the bill for this like we are. I wonder what percentage of the only 27 percent that voted actually pay for this. Businesses and property owners are again paying based on the votes of those who do not have to. Bottom line is these kids don't need this money to get excellent education. Now we've taught them how to lie and cheat to get what they want.

Appalled – Bellevue, ID
10/30/09 - 12:02

This entire matter was handled in an extremely unethical way. It distresses me deeply that our children are being taught by a school district so devious and corrupt. I want the best for our children, and would have been enthusiastically in support of a levy for a specific purpose. This ridiculous vague expenditure is an outrage. I wondered as well about the "electioneering" outside the polls by the Mountain Express. I had never seen one of the "hired regular election officials" running the polls in the past, and listened to them talk to the voters - BEFORE THEY VOTED - about the desired and expected outcome of this "special election." I am disgusted that Mr. Barber's desire - an election won through lack of voter participation - has met with success.

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Outraged but not surprised
10/30/09 - 12:46

If you heard and witnessed election officials, or anyone else, actually trying to influence voters, you should call the state attorney general's office - NOW!
that office might not be in charge of elections, but someone there should definitely be interested in enforcing the law. I didn't pursue the Express handouts, because it seemed to be a gray area, but if anyone actually tried to influence the vote, state officials should become involved - right away!
If you have first-hand knowledge - PLEASE CALL THEM !

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Frustrated
10/30/09 - 13:00

With 49 employees in the Carey School, pretty easy to see how 207 voted yes on this election, between spouses and immediate families. I think people need to look at the way the election is handled, ie percentage to pass, dates of election. It was pretty shady.

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Unfair
10/30/09 - 13:34

LOOK at these comments! Can anyone argue that this was passed through SLEAZY and unfair tactics?! Even the school district themselves cannot dispute this. Barber Even Admitted this in a meeting prior to the vote by saying they were not doing this at the polls because they wanted a smaller voter turnout. Exactly why the vote was at the schools. In Carey Howard Royal WAS campaigning to vote Yes in front of the gym where the vote took place. He approached me asking me to vote yes. I Voted NO. I am offended. I agree. Let's fight this BLAINE COUNTY! LET'S make them accountable. I believe we need to fight to have this outcome revoked. I'd be happy to allow another vote in an ETHICAL and fair way. The manner in which they conducted this is simply THEFT! We have no choice but to fight this Blaine County and force the District to do this FAIR and ETHICALLY!

GMo
10/30/09 - 10:34

If this SLEAZE tactic worked for the school district it will also work for the Land Trust. Hell remember it won't raise our taxes, we can pay these the rest of our lives, or as long as we can afford our over taxed homes. We're at the tipping point on a fence, are we better off as home owners? Or renters?

Mike – Ketchum
10/30/09 - 09:43

What's truly appalling is the community that refuses to pay 40 cents/day to help ensure the best education for our children. I grew up in the valley, and attended the local schools. These attitudes were even more prevalent back then, too, but I thank my parent's generation for pushing aside the ignorance and selfishness as and building the school system we have now. Now, I and my generation are back in the community moving things forward, and thankfully out-voting the small minded and selfish who would rather keep pennies in their pocket and not invest in our children't future.

It is one of the great paradoxes that the relatively uneducated support education less than the more educated, consequently reinforcing the socioeconomic conditions they live under.

Reply to Mike
Outraged but not surprised
10/30/09 - 10:01

This is not about the education of our children, per se. The district didn't even know what they'd use the money for when they first planned this levy election. They just wanted to have the money in case they found something to spend it on! So, now they have a long list, but nothing is really specific or vital. They should have been honest enough to recognize the current recession, admit they didn't need funds right now, and come back for a bond election when they had a definite need (like a new school).
I think most people are really objecting to the low tactics used - which hit us as a surprise, since we expect open friendly communication in our small community, not underhanded "politics". And, as previously noted by letter writers, this is certainly a terrible way to teach our kids about civics - "how to manipulate the democratic process", presented by our educational system employees !

Reply to Mike
wondering
10/30/09 - 10:27

can anyone verify how much the levy was on the ballot yesterday??? I might be remembering wrong but the total in today's paper seems higher than what I remember on the ballot when I voted.

Reply to Mike
Disgusted
10/30/09 - 13:22

Mike,
What is "truely appalling" is your through lack of knowledge as to the facts. The fact is that The Blaine County School Board is one of the richest in the nation and is DOUBLE per child of the second richest district in Idaho! Look at your property tax bill (if you even pay it). Our school district gets 65% of all property taxes collected. Then look below that to see the CURRENT levy. Then wait for your next bill which will show the "new levy"!
Do your homework before replying again my friend.

PS. What is your position in our school district? Is this lining your pockets?

Reply to Mike
Mike – ketchum
10/30/09 - 16:00

I'm most dubious of any assertion of the net worths of members of the Blaine Country school board relative to other school boards in Idaho and the US. The statement that the Blaine County school board is amongst the richest in the nation is made up. Obtaining data to prove that statement is almost certainly beyond the means of the claimant.

It is true that Blaine County funds schools at a higher rate than other counties in Idaho and many in the US, and that is understandable on many levels. The costs of living in Blaine County are significantly higher than other counties in Idaho and much of the US. Services like schools necessarily cost more. And, residents of Blaine County value education disproportionally to other counties/districts. Moreover, Blaine County has a skewed property base where property values are relatively high, and the ratio of occupied vs. unoccupied properties is unusual, resulting in property taxes that are relatively low considering the overall cost of living in Blaine County, and certainly plays into some of the election dynamics involving incremental property taxes.

I have no financial association with the school district, directly or otherwise. I pay my share of property taxes, and read the accompanying bills, too.

Reply to Mike
Jay Miller
10/30/09 - 16:14

Please read Mike's last line carefully. Let me break it down.

Smart and educated people like me vote for the levy. Uneducated and stupid people like you do not. Therefore, thankfully, those smart folks like me are going to save you dummies.

This school district already spends more per pupil than virtually every school in the country. It's not exactly churning out some overabundance of MIT grads or Pulitzer Prize winners. So what are the measurable, obtainable results of a district that already spends over 20k per pupil per year? They don't exist. They never did.

Now by Mike's measure, it's like this. You go to a car lot and find a car for 25,000. You go to another car lot and find the identical car for 30,000. You buy the 30,000 car reasoning that since you are paying more for it, it stands to reason that it must be a better car- and so you do. It is moronic logic, but thankfully we have guys like Mike to tell us who's smart and who's not. Lucky us.

FAIRNESS AND FREEDOM NO LONGER EXISTS – Carey
10/30/09 - 08:58

This is appalling. I am extremely disappointed in the school board for the sneaky way they put this levy through. There were no signs saying 'vote here' as you would normally see. Even when you walk into the school to vote, it really looked like business as usual as there were no signs saying 'vote today'. This is really unfortunate. First, many of the voters don't even pay this tax. Second, the businesses will foot most the bill. This is ridiculous. Freedoms are lost in this country and now it we loose freedoms through rigged systems now in our school district. This is very upsetting.

Reply to FAIRNESS AND FREEDOM NO LONGER EXISTS
Outraged but not surprised
10/30/09 - 09:13

I guess the Carey polling place didn't have the Mountain Express hired hands out in front, asking each person who entered if they were going to vote, then handing them a "correction sheet" to read. Plus, large posters in multiple places in Hemingway, noting the correct yearly amount the levy would cost (not monthly, as first printed in the Express). Since this action could influence voters - I wonder if it's legal. There is a federal law against "electioneering" within 100 feet of a polling place - but the board member and Express emps said this wasn't for that purpose, just a "correction of a misprint". Since only the board is in charge of this piece of work, only they can decide what's legal!?! Since the Express supported the levy, we can only wonder at the true intent. Yes - DC slime tactics are alive and well, right here in the Wood River Valley!!

You've been screwed!
10/30/09 - 08:34

Blaine County residents, you've been screwed! The School Dist. got their scam through, only 27% of the registered voters showed up, and that's EXACTLY what they wanted! I wouldn't be supprised if this vote was rigged from the outset.
Ask questions! Who actually counted the vote? Were there outside observers?
They put this through as a levy so they would only need 55% instead of 66 2/3% and they did it 5 days before the general election!
We should rename the Blaine County School Board..............The Blaine County Fascist Indoctrination Board!

Reply to You've been screwed!
Outraged but not surprised
10/30/09 - 09:00

I asked the school district all of those questions: they said "hired regular election officials" conducted the polling and counted votes, but I don't know if anyone "observed". I called state offices to ask if all this is legal: the Attorney Geneneral's office said they don't oversee elections; Sect'y of State said they only cover regular elections; State Board of Education doesn't handle elections; Blaine County had nothing to do with this since it was only a school district election, etc etc etc. There was a school board member at Hemingway,"in charge". This entire episode screams SLEAZE, and we'll pay for it for 10 years! We'd better be paying attention to their plans to spend this money - remember, they said they'd only use it if "necessary" - so we should have something to say about what's "necessary", if the board will allow public input (doubtful!). In any case - future board elections should be interesting !!!

Reply to You've been screwed!
mpc
10/30/09 - 22:54

It is not to late. let us put our oun proposition foward to deny funds to the school. We may have to wait till the actual election date.

Reply to You've been screwed!
(blank)
11/01/09 - 15:26

Vote for me, vote for what I want. The polling place is at my house or business. I'll count the votes. Trust me.

The entire process is one big case of electioneering and other forms of fraud. How can this be legal anywhere in the USA? Is this the People's Republic of BCSD? The ends justify the means. Is this what we teach our kids?

A federal case is needed at once. If not, every dime raised by this levy needs to stay in this county!

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