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The comments below are from the readers of mtexpress.com and in no way represent the views of Express Publishing Inc. 11/10/09 - 12:11
Mr. Sauter offers atypical comments for a staunch Republican. The Ketchum area, with its alpinist's vistas and Hemingway heritage, has to think long and hard about growth. But then again, so do most of the cities in the mountain west. Free market economists have never accounted accurately for externalities. Hence, there is no real quantitative method nor theory with which to frame the debate on growth. Portland, Oregon had a harmonious philosophy of growth for a while. But that has been disparaged and dismantled in good measure by conservative politics and an underemployed electorate. The enormous issue of growth requires heroic leadership, a man or woman who can translate a reticulum of issues into something easily apprehended by citizens. The abstruse ideas of Joseph Stiglitz are not going to play in a region where whooping cough vaccination is debated. Yeah, Van, tough, gritty places like Elko, NV may be interesting or quaint in the way of a John Ford movie. But areas untouched by industrialization are naive about the downside of commerce, and usually have a bad case of the dumb*ss. 11/02/09 - 20:29
The poster here named "Hope" is killing me. Comparing Ketchum of today to the Ketchum of yesteryear, Hope informs us that we have now become "a virtual ghost town, save a few months of the year." Gee, Hope, I hate to bring this fact to your attention, but in the heyday of the 80's that you so fondly refer to, Ketchum literally had tumbleweeds blowing down Main Street during spring slack, and during fall slack too, and during... well, almost all the time, save a few months of the year. It was not a virtual ghost town; it was a ghost town. Town was empty save for the locals for those many long months of the year. And many of us liked it that way! Yes, those days are gone, and they're not coming back, but please: it's ridiculous for you to look at a few tables of skier count data and then to infer from that sliver of information a living, vibrant, year-round economy. That's simply not the way it was. And yes, we were skiers then, as we still are now; and yes, we were dependent upon the tourist dollar then, just as we are now. But the difference between your vision of this valley and ours is simply this: we were, and still are, happy just to live here and ski. You want more money in the deal. Van Gordon Sauter's article is right on the money, even if he does state the matter too politely and too cautiously for my tastes. The valley is being sold, plain and simple, and when valley's like this one are sold off to development, as will happen here, the talk is always about an increased level of economic well being for all concerned... but come on, man; it doesn't ever really play out that way. A few will make a truckload of money; a few more will eke out a hard living in the restaurant ownership trade, and related endeavors, but the rest of us, the vast majority, will work part time at two or three jobs, as always, with no health insurance, live far down valley (or farther than that) and share none of the wealth that development will bring to those whose interests are so keenly served by the anticipated wave of increased tourist dollars. Don't try to sell us a trickle down theory of ski resort economics. We know better. The quality of life will suffer in absolute terms, and suffer markedly, and if my suspicions are correct, and if my hopes are correct (at least we share the idea of hope, even though we clearly hope for completely antithetical objectives) eventually the town will die a slow, slow, post-tourism-boom death. The draw of this valley has always been the quality of life here, not the quantity of condos. Change that balance, and the dollars will eventually die. Once the character of town alters dramatically, as Gordon and others so eloquently note that it will, potential tourists will come to see this area not as someplace special, but as just another Aspen, or just another Vail, or just another Tahoe- and not a Sun Valley. And gee whiz, why fly all the way to Idaho just to visit a place that's every bit as developed and just as glitzy as a place that's much closer to home? Having sold it's soul, having lost it's identity, and having knowingly sold these qualities away, for more tourist dollars, Ketchum and Sun Valley will eventually find that it also traded away the very thing that brought tourists here in the first place. But by then the profits will have been made, the profiteers will have moved away, and Hope, and others like Hope, will be back to square one, wondering how in the world it all happened so fast. (And we'll still be skiing, you loser.) 11/01/09 - 08:12
Mr. Sauter: Bull's-eye! Brings to mind an analogy in Timothy Egan's "The Worst Hard Time": the lower wheat prices dropped the more land was planted to wheat, the more wheat prices dropped, and the worse times got.... As the number of tourists drops, the more tourists and beds we need.... What Sun Valley needs in my opinion is to realize what they have and what they are and what it will take to maintain sustainability and the livability in your valley so that the character and quality of life of your fine community doesn't slowly ebb away. Putting all your eggs in the tourist basket---risky business. Just as Sun Valley holds Aspen up as the example to avoid, how many towns already hold Sun Valley up as a similar example? 11/03/09 - 09:39
Excellent points! It just seems that the need for more tourists arises out of the need for many to support a lifestyle from easily earned tourist dollars. Remember, also in Worst Hard Times more plowing for wheat was to result in more rain-"rain follows the plow"- which would bring more wheat and more easy profits. However, it brought speculators, many non-farmers, in wheat and land prices. The analogy and the lesson here being bringing in more tourists results in more permanent residents and others hoping to profit from even more tourists. Eventually, livability is ruined as the land was by wind and over plowing in the Dust Bowl. People should just realize that the key to preserving the area is attracting more retirees and others (Dare I say wealthy) who need no local job and wage support for their lifestyle. In addition even these groups must realize that willingness to shop and get services in Twin Falls and Boise is critical to maintaining the current livability. This may not be a popular approach with the local populous, but it is reality as were new more realistic and less harmful farming methods that came out of the Dust Bowl period. Unfortunately, as long as people think it is a God given right to live in this area and have a lifestyle sustained by it little will stop the march towards Aspenization. Maybe a wind like the current downturn in the economy and real estate markets will stop it as it did the speculators and profiteers in farmland after the 1920's. Hopefully, people will realize that this area brings a lifestyle with it, but not much in the way of opportunity to emulate your and well to do neighbors or City living cousins which the farmers and newly arrived speculators of the Dust Bowl became painfully aware. 10/30/09 - 12:06
We blindly got this far, what the hell, lets go all the way into the sustainable Environmental-ism I repeat ism, once again ism hole. Sustain Blaine, The KCDC, WREP, Citizens for Smart Growth, etc all work towards economic vitality and long term sustainability while protecting, and even enhancing, our quality of life. BS 10/30/09 - 22:23
I just wish I could have done more for the planet, today. 10/31/09 - 09:30
MPC, you can, advise all these scientism followers to get a swine flu vaccination.. 10/30/09 - 09:14
Gordon, the joy of life has been deteriorated here because we have lost hotel beds, our skier days are significantly lower than the peak of the early 80's and that has led to us becoming a virtual ghost town, save a few months of the year. While I understand your concerns, I wish you had done some more in-depth research. The impacts of new developments have indeed been analyzed. The hotel projects do not base their projections on an airport expansion or hundreds of people arriving on bigger jets. Need I remind you that our flight service has been dramatically reduced over the years? We definitely need alternative transportation to minimize congestion and the deleterious effects to the environment of more vehicles on the road. Leave a Comment
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