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The comments below are from the readers of mtexpress.com and in no way represent the views of Express Publishing Inc. 06/20/08 - 22:27
Entitlement? what businesses in the US don't want government money to be spent to help them or protect them? Whats the difference between a livestock producer who is doing there best to protect their animals from attack by something that was reintroduced (not being able to actually prepare for or change) and all the folks whose homes and businesses are wiped by mother nature? Aren't wolves just as natural as a hurricane? Should we tell the people in New Orleans...oops guess you don't qualify for government assistance either. Who draws the line on the loss? What about the businesses here locally that got or applied for governmental aide after the Castle Rock Fire? That was as natural as wolves and talk about entitilement? Oh and speaking of ethics? wolves don't eat what they kill..ask about the 15+ Rams they slaughtered for Flat Top. 06/21/08 - 09:22
Cindy, There is an enormous difference between disaster relief and ongoing subsidy for private use of a public resource. Specifically, users who want predators removed from public lands so they can use those public lands for private profit. And no, I do not expect a handout from Uncle Sam every year. (Yes, I would swallow my pride and take it.....but I don't want it). I don't think that wolves are "like a hurricane". I think they are a natural and important part of the landscape. I also think that they need to be controlled when they cause hardship for the responsible stockgrower. I like seeing the wolf in the wild and as a hunter I like the effect the wolf has on wild game (i.e. making them real wild game; wary & alert). But let's put this in perspective: Here is the USDA website: In Idaho in 2007, sheep producers lost 34,000 head of sheep to various causes. 500 were lost to wolves (0.014%) and 600 head from DOGS. DOGS killed more sheep than wolves. As for the "ethics" of wolves. You give animals far too much credit if you assign them moral values to them. What are the ethical animals and the unethical ones? 06/21/08 - 09:29
Cindy, For some reason this site makes it difficult to paste the entire USDA link: here it is www.nass.usda.gov This public information is available for every state and it is interesting data. Analyzed statewide for all states, wolf predation is trivial. That is not to say the effect on some individual rancher is not significant. 07/02/08 - 22:49
Honey! you can take those ridiculous sheep, and those there cattle and goats and whatever is roaming in Idaho and go back to Okalahoma. Because if any area needs you and your feed animals, it is there. 06/20/08 - 18:02
Wow, the venom just drips off those last three comments. Goodwolf apparently is not too fond of real wildlands and wants "managed" lands and a "managed" experience - like game without predators. I hope you eat what you kill. An ethical hunter does. I think it is fine to lease public lands to ranchers, provided they manage their lease responsibly. And it does have the smell of entitlement when private parties want the govt. to spend public money ($100,000,000/yr) to control predators. But, Lava Lake folks seem to be trying hard to do the right thing and they should be supported. As for the Sun Valley Resort, I doubt whether the ski operation makes much money. But they sure attract a lot of money to Idaho. Cindy, I love the term "tourist lickers". I've done it a few times myself. Fun! 06/20/08 - 15:31
The only time the "Ketchum Wolves" aka business owners and tourists like the sheep of the WoodRiver Valley are when they are trailing out of town and the money for their viewing is spent in businesses and hotels. Talk about the ranchers raping the land...what about the tourists? 06/20/08 - 11:20
Who owns Bald Mountain? Not Sun Valley Company, yet it is allowed to "profit" off of "government ground! Why not solve it all move the wolves to Baldy and let them feed on the dogs that crap on the trails, and the people who are sheepeoples to actually pay to allow Sun Valley Co, cut out trees and build gondolas!! Talk about an ugly eyesore! Just because you as business owners and Tourist lickers don't profit off the sheep, you're always unhappy! 06/18/08 - 16:03
This is nothing more than harassment of public wildlife to benefit private livestock operators. Why should wolves be harassed and/or killed so that Lava Lake or any other sheep grazers can make a profit by using public resources for their private benefit. If ranchers want to use public lands, they should be responsible for absorbing any losses. If the losses are too great--then they can go home and stay off our public lands. 06/18/08 - 10:21
Using the carrot of federal land in order to get cooperation may be just what is needed. Coming up with solutions, people working together, these are important things! I commend Rick Williamson! 06/18/08 - 05:53
We are talking about federally owned land. These ranchers shouldn't even be allowed to use these lands for their own private gain. And they sure shouldn't have any right to complain about wolves living on the federal land. 06/18/08 - 09:32
totally agree , dave Leave a Comment
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