There is room for cattle and sheep on the public ranges, my ancestors have ran cattle for over 100 years. the deer and elk are all leaving because of the wolves and motor bikes.
Also you wolf lovers need to show the wolves where private land is. They have no place with my animals and my pets. The program was too successful.

Black Diamond-
I have all the "authentic data" I need about wolves: I know of 4 dens I will be visiting with my tag holding friends, I know my .300wsm is dead on at 200 yds. 3 inches low at 300yds. I know that many who disagree with you will "accidently" gut shoot as many wolves as the can before tagging one, I know the ignorant, self serving agenda of so called wildlife "experts" and vegan, disney brainwashed, star child, "into the wild" wannabee, idiot transplants from the suburbs of California can suck it. Im going huntin'. It's what Idahoans do. Now, remember to wear orange this Fall......WORD.

Is there an open season on "pro wolfy's"? I think they are just all jealous because they don't own a gun to go bring a wolf hide home for themselves. They aren't good for anything. Lets just get rid of them all and be done with it. Why haven't we heard of any stories of conservationists trying to protect dinosaurs from becoming extinct? Oh, ya. Because they weren't good for anything and they destroyed everything in their path! Hmmm.... Sounds like wolves are the new dinosaurs! Kill em all dead! Nobodys gonna miss them.

Interesting to see this story from last year. Since delisting has been delayed, more wolves will have to be killed to keep them out of unsuitable habitat. What has DoW and other groups accomplished with their lawsuits? More wolf deaths. There is only so much room in the wilderness and wolves do belong there - they don't belong in subdivisions.

Anon,

Those early scholars did not agree with the majority of their time that the earth was flat.. The ruling blue blood elite were wrong then as they are wrong now. That period was also pre-reformation era, those scholars bringing forth new sciences at that time in history were presecuted, killed, Paul and Peter both were beheaded, Galileo was punished for his findings which were found to be accurate many years later...We return to this Dark New World Order era shortly, and in fact many good findings have been suppressed even in this Reformation period as well, Tesla, Moray, just for starters..Intelligent Creation can not be refuted if the research is honest.. One cannot understand The book of Daniel nor Revelations without the help of Strongs and Knochs Concordance Hebrew correct word dividing, as well one needs a knowledge of ancient symbology, sex and the stars and the hegelian double speak or your lost in research...finding nothing except establishment lies.. Who persecuted them..the RCC..The Beast from Rome..

99% of all scientists believe in evolution.
i cant believe u guys live on the same planet as me.

Now the wolf lovers will have the opportunity to adopt a pack of our wild fuzzy puppies. Kudos to our State rep's for voting in the new bill. Take our Wolves, Please!

Folks in the cities are not the ones who are losing their pets, yet they want to tell us how to live. They want us all locked up behind big fences and afraid to go out, just like they are in the big city.

You should all experience the "joy" of having a pack of wolves surround your home during the night, and howl every time you make a noise to try and "shoo" them away. They are not afraid of us.

Yep sure, maybe you mean research like this, Seven things you are unaware of concerning the " Humane Society of the United States", not so humane it seems..your all owned and this wolf program is exposed for what it is...
www.consumerfreedom.com

www.skinnymoose.com

The Canadian species of wolf is incorrect for the lower 48, there are 32 known subspecies world wide, with North America haveing 24 subspecies, this species is not the species which was here prior to this scam..

Heart and feelings for the wolves? How about heart and feelings for the ranchers who are putting meat in the grocery stores, restaurants, feeding America!!!!!!!!
Lets see the Hearts and feelings for the wolves, when they come in and kill your Dogs and Cats, there was already an uproar about a Cougar doing it!!!!!!!!

Sure hope they'll be a lot of hunting accidents... Darwin always prevails!

you guys have no heart no feelings for these wolfs think twice what your doing . rember you will pay in the end.

Yep, what a beautiful plan, loose an unmanaged predator upon the hooved ungulates of Idaho, spending millions in the process in a decaying economy, spreading lies how they only kill the sick and weak, even though eye-witness accounts prove other wise, the wolves will irrefutably kill off all Idaho's elk as predicted, the elk herds of generations of rebuilding after the decimation of the late 1800s and early 1900s due to a combination of over predation by both man and beast. Now the beast gets free reign and little is left for man to manage by harvest or other wise. Once abundant elk herds are now a scarcity, thank goodness we have photographs and prints of majestic elk for our grand children to see what Idaho lost by kill every thing wolves who finally starved themselves out or moved onto other food sources.

Yes, this is a great idea? We sped years trying to repopulate a dying species and then mark them for death. Maybe next year the other problems in our society can be hunted. I know plenty of places to find predators that harm our society on a much greater level (IE: robbers, rapist,drug dealers, ect)

The wolf needs to be hunted and the fact is that 99.9% of all the people who think that they shouldnt are the people that have no idea what these killers are doing to the areas that they populate. They think that they do because they go on a weekend hike 5 times a year and have never had to deal with them. I spent weeks in the woods watching what the wolfs were doing, and they do sport hunt. I watched them kill 2 elk and were chasing anouther before I lost them. They werent killing for food they were killing for fun. It does not make since that these idiots want to keep them on the list. All you are going to get out of it is more animals to put on the list. Then what, you realize how dumb it was and get to say opps we messed up. Dont be stupid, get the facts to what is really happening and then speak. The one thing that all these pro wolfys are right about is that God will keep them in check, and he will do it threw mans hands.

Ive been arguing with other pro-wolf groups over the amount of elk that wolves sport or binge kill. Even the pro-wolf crowd agrees to wolves killing 1.8 elk per month. Our website incorporates a study that says the number is a much higher number of 3.0 elk killed per month per wolf.

The greater the number of wolves, the more surplus elk killed, and yes, other ungulate are surplus or sport killed in the same way. Our fragile wilderness can handle a finite amount of predator killing before the ecological balance is threatened. The number of wolves allowed in approved wolf management plan - 150 for Idaho, 450 for the three states of Idaho, Montana and Wyoming can be tolerated without ecological damage. What you and your pro-wolf brethren are suing for, is for a minimum viable level of 3000 to 5000 wolves. You are oblivious to the devastation that these outrageous numbers will inflict on our wildlife.

Even at the pro-wolf agreed upon wolf kill rate of 1.8 elk per month; this equates to 5,400 to 9,000 elk killed per month, and a whooping 64,800 to 108,000 elk killed by wolves per year. If this doesn't get your attention then you are beyond all hope.

If wolf advocates had any compassion for other wildlife other than their beloved wolf, they would back off their lawsuit and support the IDF&G and USF&W in enforcing the approved wolf management plans.

Cant believe any one would alowe a wolf,to be killed,arent they part of the eco system,that nature depends on? ok maybe a farmer if the wolf is munchin his live stock,but they are HARMLESS,decent,animals,i use to have one i found years ago as a pet(more of a best friend) they dont go after humans less they are seriously challenged,they dont bother any one cept like i said the farmer,so why the hell are we killing them off?
Good grief,you cant eat them,and what to make a coat out of them? i find this be to crewl,and not needed to kill such a beautyful,wonderful animal that nature gave us to enjoy,and love,would you kill and hunt a dog? they are also super inteligent,loving and caring,again i had a timber wolf, a shame,yet we alowe people to have a hybred wolf,thats nasty,vicious,agressive,and dogs and wolves are not ment to be bread,doesnt mix,very sads to see this,i lived out west years ago,and couldnt believe this article about hunting a poor wolf!

WOOHOO gonna get me a wolf this fall. I'm gonna hang its pelt on the wall of my Dad's house above the fireplace. DIE WOLF DIE!! HAHA

Some feel that hunting is immoral or inhumane, and that hunting should be severely curtailed or prohibited. Some also feel that wildlife ecosystems will be better served by curtailing and limiting hunting and that predators, such as the wolf, should be allowed to effectively manage game populations without any intervention. They believe that wolves are intelligent creatures and are more efficient in the management of game species than is man. This thinking is fatally flawed.
History has proven that species management is necessary to protect and maintain healthy, vibrant game populations. This is why we have an Endangered Species Act; to recognize and use intelligent, unemotional management techniques to ensure the long-term viability of a threatened or endangered species. Management allows man to ensure that the proper predator-prey balance exists in nature necessary for all species to prosper.
As far as the question as to which is the best method to effectively manage big game populations; using hunting or allowing unabated predator population expansion? Throughout the world, hunting is widely acknowledged an accepted as the best and most effective way to manage and control game populations. This fact is indisputable. Proper use of hunting, balanced with proper predator controls, can ensure that all species including predator and prey survive over the long run. Conversely, lack of predator management, especially in the case of the introduction of the top-tier Canadian Gray wolf predator into Idaho, will result in exponential predator population growth with the predator eventually consuming and depredating its prey base.
In the case of how to best manage wolves and big game in Idaho - hunting seasons are an effective tool for our Idaho Fish and Game to regulate big game populations by varying the amount of hunting permits they allow in certain areas. IDF&G monitors game herds and regulates the issuance of permits and tags as necessary to properly manage our states� big game population. They issue tags directed at a certain age group or gender (i.e. bull�s only tags if they believe the area has more bulls then is optimal.) Additionally, the IDF&G will often curtail or close an entire area if the game count is below optimal levels. Under no circumstances will regulations allow young and defenseless game to be killed. In fact, the primary goal of hunting and game management recognizes that healthy reproduction and newborn survival is essential for the future continued viability of the game species. The ultimate goal of hunting is to manage game populations to ensure a vibrant healthy game population over the long run.
Currently in Idaho there are over 1000 Canadian Gray wolves responsible for killing more than 30,000 elk a year. Wolf numbers are increasing at over 30% per year. These "re-introduced" non-native Canadian Gray wolf hybrids are killing more elk than any other species including man. Wolves, by their very nature, are pre-programmed to kill game without any concern of sustainability of a prey species. They often kill for food, but recent evidence suggests that they more often prefer indiscriminate binge and reflex sport killing. Once they begin killing they have a propensity to continue on a killing frenzy until all the available prey has left an area or is dead. Wolves will usually move into an area and will first prey on easy targets such as the young and defenseless. Once the young prey is exhausted, they will pack up and then turn to killing the more mature adults. Once wolves start killing, binge and sport killing takes over and they continue until all available prey is exhausted. Under harsh winter conditions wolves will move into an area and literally wipe out entire ungulate herds where the game is trapped by heavy snow depths. This scenario resulting in depredation of Idaho elk herds has occurred in northern Idaho this winter. Entire drainages in the Clearwater area are now devoid of a single elk do to wolf depredation. This cycle is the beginning of a well known scientific phenomenon called a "predator pit" in which the prey base is exterminated.
This scenario will continue spreading throughout our Idaho wilderness if wolves are not scientifically managed at the approved State Wolf Management Plan levels. For all you pro-wolf advocates who are not satisfied �beware what you ask for." If you get your way in court and convince your hand-picked liberal judges to agree with you and mandate your position of the establishment of minimum viable population of 3,000 to 5,000 wolves, your very actions will lead to an explosion of the wolf population and lead to the eventual circumstances that wolves themselves will become extinct in the future.
I plead my case, let the IDF&G and the knowledgeable scientists manage the wolves at the levels they deem necessary.
www.saveourelk.com

Excerpt from USDA 2007 Wolf Activity Report (page 9) - RELATIVE LIKELIHOOD
OF PREDATION ON LIVESTOCK BY EACH SPECIES

"individual wolves were about 170 times more likely to kill cattle than were
individual coyotes or bears. Individual wolves were about 21 times more
likely to kill cattle than were individual mountain lions in 2005."

"individual wolves were on average about 21 times more likely to kill sheep
than were individual bears, about 7 times more likely to kill sheep than
were individual coyotes, and about 5 times more likely to kill sheep than
were individual mountain lions."

100s of wolves huh I have a better idea Lets just kill all wild life and just let cows and sheep have the mountains That way we will have a better view of things no squirls no deer no elk and for hecks sake no buffalo YA KILL THEM ALL Please FNG Think Why did we bring them back in the first place It was not for the Bush administraision I have seen wolves in the wild from just a few 100 feet They had no interest in me