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The comments below are from the readers of mtexpress.com and in no way represent the views of Express Publishing Inc. 03/15/09 - 16:55
Europe and America were more successful than Africa because people living there didn't have to worry about lions and tigers coming and eating them. Getting rid of predators is progress and a step forward in human civilization. Only liberals (who love to call themselves "progressive") want to go backward in time and have wild predators roaming our backyards. 03/13/09 - 20:16
What would you rather here a Elk bugle in the thick timber of the sawtooths, or a wolf howl in downtown Ketchum. 03/14/09 - 18:27
I personally would rather hear the shrieking from a Ketchum part timer while their dog is being killed by that howling wolf in downtown Ketchum. I watched the wolf pack above Golden Eagle on Thursday for a while and it sent chills up my spine. Funny how a paper in this area won't bring up the fact that that wolf pack has been 300 yards from homes and backyards. The Boise news will tell you about it though. What about the wolf kills down around Broadford Road. I have heard from a good source, a homeowner in that area, that Fish & Game have verified two of them down there. The wolfs aren't afraid of people and they won't be until they get an education. The best education will be in the form of a bullets flying towards and hopefully through the body of a wolf! Fish & Game has a good solid plan that represents what a majority of Idahoans want. The only place you will hear a lot of dissension is unfortunately a place where "transplants" from other states or countries congregate. Funny how non-natives or "transplants" seem to cause a lot of controversy. 03/15/09 - 10:02
It is encumbent upon all humans to reinstate the lost or extirpated populations of predators to their former ranges in the last wilderness vestiges. Having said that, being a hunter myself and only looking at a macro focus ring on the subject I hate it and pretty much everybody else does including my brother in the elk bend area. Watching the elk populations going down is akin to having to watch your mother slowly die of a preventable disease behind a plexiglass wall with the cure for her ailment. The wolves need to be managed, they are not in global crisis, there birth rates are high currently with plentiful food supply. This issue is a long range issue and its intensity pales when examined with that in mind. Some hunters are getting up in age and guiding businesses, sporting goods shops etc. are being affected. Those older hunters might be shut out of the opportunity to hunt for bull elk. Time is running out on them, but the wolf recovery plan has nothing but time and a fresh supply of thousands of wolf populations in Canada and Alaska. 03/13/09 - 13:14
I find it completely heart breaking that we still live in a world that believes killing is the answer. I have listened to both sides and I understand both. What I don't understand is the supposed solution. Since when did slaughtering a rare and beautiful creature ever become acceptable let alone a solution!??? It is truly disappointing that we, human beings, cannot come to a compromise in protecting the wolves while pleasing the ranchers. Let me ask this question. Will the ranchers only be happy if they have licenses to kill? Surely they are not that ignorant. This earth that we live on was not just created for us and what we wish to do. We must honor mother earth and respect all animals that exist. Surely with such intelligence and advances in our current time can we find a better solution! I am so saddened as so many others are that more people cannot feel the connection within themselves to the wolves and to all. The consciousness of humanity need so shift. To the ranchers I would say is it about a few dollars? It seems to me that part of having cattle would be the risk of a completely natural process that is the cycle of life. I would think that very few cattle die - looking at the BIG picture. I believe it is natural for cattle to die whether it be by wolves or not, that is natural and normal. Just as we die so do they and interfering with the very normal process of life is not for us to do. I garden every year and rabbits destroy many of my plants. I feel upset that my hard work, time and money are spent only to have a hungry rabbit come along and destroy it. Sure I am bigger and smarter and more powerful than the rabbit, I could simply get out a shot gun and kill them all! How sad would that be if so many others felt the same? The rabbits would shortly die off and we would experience the consequences of interfering with the perfect planet once again. I know I am rambling, my point is this: I spend a little more money and time using repellents out of RESPECT and LOVE. It should never be any other way!! We are all part of this life TOGETHER. It all comes down to being concerned with life. You are either a being that is for saving life, one that emulates love and respect in your life or you are the other, the opposite. I will say it again there is a solution and death is not the answer. SAVE THE WOLVES!! 03/13/09 - 14:42
Honey, it isn't about pleasing the Ranchers! I take it you don't go out in the woods much. I do and now have to carry a gun. I don't like killing and love to hear the wolf and it's cousin the coyote. They (the wolf) could care less about me and would have no trouble killing me and my family and yes they would do it just for the fun of it. They are killers that is what puts them on top. Don't put loving notions in there head they have none. They kill, eat and make more wolves. That is the extent of what they know. You do them a disservice by trying to make them like you. Get real and then there can be a solution. 03/15/09 - 02:57
Dear Laura - its not just ranchers who have lost domestic animals to wolves. The people living in rural Idaho and families on vacation camping in the woods have had their animals attacked and killed too. Losing a beloved pet or nursing them after an attack is a horrible. I'm not sure what experiences you have had, but ours have not been pleasant. There are more wolves than suitable habitat can support. The key word is "suitable" - the wilderness is where the wolves belong. They do Not belong in neighborhoods where people live - its not suitable habitat. Now why should we (the people) of rural Idaho have to be victimized so you can have a fuzzy warm feeling? If the number of wolves had been kept at the original experimental population, we probably would not be having wolves denned near homes. There is room in the wilderness for the 10 packs (100 wolves) and folks are welcome to hike in there to see them. These wolves are not endangered as a species. There are thousands of them in Canada. They were only rare on the US side of the border. I respect your life, but please have a care for others. 02/11/08 - 18:26
The first issue on protecting the so called Idaho wolves is that the species transplanted to Idaho are not native to the state. They are Canadian wolves. Second, Idaho has let the population of the wolves extreamly surpass what was agreed upon and now they are creating an unbalanced preditor pray ratio. This winter is going to prove that Introducing these killers was a big mistake when they follow the game to the lowlands and start praying on domesticated animals. 01/13/08 - 18:45
WOLF HUNT!!!! Wolves are the animals that used to cover the world, the widest ranged animal that ever lived. Now there are only a few pocketfulls left that are shrinking by the minute, and they want wolf hunts?!?!?! IF they're so conserned about wolf pop. then take a peek at ppl and cattle pop. WE are OVERpopulated. Cattle- 3.3 billion. People- 6.6 BILLION. Wolves- a few million. who sounds more overpopulated. Look at that before you kill a wolf that never harmed you. 12/27/07 - 15:57
Cattle herders crack me up. You raze public BLM and National forest land by placing thousands of those beasts that you end up slaugtering and selling to the market... while being subsidized on the private sectors dime. But heck, not one of those wolfies can feast on one, because that would eat into your profits. The copper basin area is one of the most beautiful in Idaho, but thanks to the damage by the cattle in that area, most of the water resources from that area are so polluted, it would take a few decades for it to return to a natural state. I say the best solution is to let the free market reign on these welfare ranchers. By all means, allow them to place the cattle on public lands on the public dime. .. HOWEVER, the fish and game license a slow-elk hunt and allow hunters to slaughter your heffers for you, and of course you welfare ranchers can get a dime for every license sold. This will help cut your costs, as you won't have to ship your heffers and bulls to market, and I can legally get my cattle meat by hunting it myself. Click -- BANG. Free the cows! And if the wolf takes one down before I get the chance to hunt one, ohh well, you can always cry to the government some more about how you need more subsidies to get richer off the private sector, ya govermnet moochies. 12/27/07 - 16:51
First of all, I'm a rancher, not a "Cattle herder". Second, this debate is about wolves, not cattle. If you want to talk grazing rights, take it somewhere else. Third, sounds like you might need an ager management class. I just want to hunt the wolves...sounds like you want to shoot a person. 12/27/07 - 18:18
Cattle herder - cattle rancher - same thing. You raise dumb docile animals, and you act like it's your god given right to allow the stupid beasts to trounce over any land. Then you guys whine like a little kid that had his candy stolen when a pack of wolves take one of your herd of cattle. Cattle outnumber elk and wolves in this state.. heck, they even outnumber people, so do you think I care about 1 little calf that might get eaten? NO. Secondly, you also always demand that everyone just falls into line as you fools babble about how you should have sole authority and say on how all aspects of the land and wildlife in this state should be managed. The cattle herders have too much pull in this state... Thirdly, don't tell me what to do, and what to say. this is a public forum, and I ain't backin' down to any stupid herder, as he laments about his poor little cows. You got one thing right, i'm sick of you whiney herders. You can go ahead and mock californians, but the thing is - you're turning this place into exactly what you mock. You want everything so tame, and docile, and ran by stupid dumb animals. A wolf obviously has a higher intelligence that a herder. That's for damn sure. Anyway, keep up the californication, you're doing a good job, even if you aren't from there. 06/22/08 - 21:38
Rancher, your business is less than honorable and the wolf debate would be gone if you and your feed animal cohorts would take your non-native bovine back to Ole Missery. 12/24/07 - 11:49
If the current wolf population is indeed simply redistributing the elk population, then I see no need to kill them. They are not threatening the livelihood of ranchers, and I believe the revenue generated by the Idaho elk hunting industry is the driving force behind the plan to kill most of them. To the hunters and the people who cater to them, I say this: "Too bad. Find some other way to entertain yourselves and/or fatten your pocketbook." Surely the state of Idaho can come up with other ways to profit from outdoor enthusiasts. Perhaps it is the hunters and their supporters who should be thinned. 12/25/07 - 21:39
I am curious to know if Miss Jennifer from Huntington Beach, CA has ever spent time on a cattle ranch in Mackay, ID? Has she driven the fields at night with the ranchers with their spotlights and rifles protecting their cows? Has she seen the panic in a heifer's eyes when she knows she has to give birth dispite the fact the wolves are circling her at that very monent, waiting for that moist, tender newborn calf to drop to the ground? To say the wolves are not threatening the livelihood of ranchers is the most uneducated statement I have ever heard. Please keep your Californian thoughts in California! 01/13/08 - 18:49
your right. Oh cattle don't out number ppl, their half our pop. If wolves are "in need of regulation" perhaps the ppl there need some regulation too. 12/19/07 - 15:20
Once again a few very vocal Pro-Wolf groups try to give the perception of representing the majority of Idaho residents. One has to only look at the voting record of Blaine County to see how much of a minority it is compared to the rest of the state. I find it interesting the way the groups try to discredit the survey criteria used by the Fish and Game. If the results would have been favorable to the groups' viewpoint, I have no doubt the survey would have been heralded as well done. 12/19/07 - 10:42
Being a hunting guide in the backcountry areas of Idaho. I see the inpact of the wolves and I do see wolves on occasion. I beleive to wolf plan is a good one. I do not see a bunch of wolves being killed by hunters and don't think the common hunter is going to have any impact on the wolf. These animals are very smart and once they start getting hunted they are going to get smarter. I don't think the non native population of the wood river should be getting their pants in bunch. Hunting wolves is going to be a challenge that I look forward to. 12/19/07 - 05:51
I've said it once and I'll say it again: Hunters do not hate or fear what they hunt. A true hunter loves and respects all things within the circle of life. We are not out there to kill and decimate the wolf population. However, managing the wolf population is essential to the balance of other wildlife, habitat as well as people who live in the area. 12/18/07 - 23:36
The meeting re. IDFG's wolf hunting plan, couched as a "population" plan, was an uplifting event to those of us who advocate for the right of wolves to exist in Idaho. Finally, wolf supporters had a chance to be heard. The closest other meetings were in Jerome and Challis. Video highlights of the Hailey wolf meeting will soon be available on utube. For more information and discussion about wolves, go to wolves.wordpress.com As Idahoans, we live with all kinds of wildlife - black bear, moose, mountain lions, coyotes, fox and now wolves. The call of the wild -- the howl of the wolf -- is like no other sound in nature, and not to be feared, but listened to with awe and delight. Sleep with your window open and listen! A note, elk populations in Idaho are at an all time high in many areas, and the only two elk mgt areas with wolves and elk that are not meeting IDFG elk objectives are due to habitat reasons, not wolves. How lucky we are to live in one of the last places on earth that can sustain wolves -- if we can protect them from the terrible wolf killing plan now open for comment. Leave a Comment
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